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Another BLM protest: 4 wheelers driven in restricted area

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The BLM has not closed off the area completely- it is open for hiking and horseback riding. In this particular case, the BLM has not made any endangered / "endangered" species based policy decions that impact the ability of local residents to earn a living.

Rather, all the BLM did was restrict a particular form of recreational use. In addition, there are hundreds of miles of trails in the general area open to 4 wheelers.

BLM protest challenges off-limits ATV trail on public land in Utah | Fox News

Anarchy appears to be spreading. Romantic notions aside, anarchy, either left or right wing based, tends to spiral out of control.
 
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Romantic notions aside, anarchy, either left or right wing based, tends to spiral out of control.

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The BLM has not closed off the area completely- it is open for hiking and horseback riding. In this particular case, the BLM has not made any endangered / "endangered" species based policy decions that impact the ability of local residents to earn a living.

Rather, all the BLM did was restrict a particular form of recreational use. In addition, there are hundreds of miles of trails in the general area open to 4 wheelers.

BLM protest challenges off-limits ATV trail on public land in Utah | Fox News

Anarchy appears to be spreading. Romantic notions aside, anarchy, either left or right wing based, tends to spiral out of control.

Sounds to me like a bunch of yahoos who think it's their "right" to run their off road machines wherever they want, and peace and quiet along with any historical or other land values be damned.

Let them take their machines and run them through the city parks in Salt Lake City and see how far they get and how much sympathy they generate for that.
 
The BLM has not closed off the area completely- it is open for hiking and horseback riding. In this particular case, the BLM has not made any endangered / "endangered" species based policy decions that impact the ability of local residents to earn a living.

Rather, all the BLM did was restrict a particular form of recreational use. In addition, there are hundreds of miles of trails in the general area open to 4 wheelers.

BLM protest challenges off-limits ATV trail on public land in Utah | Fox News

Anarchy appears to be spreading. Romantic notions aside, anarchy, either left or right wing based, tends to spiral out of control.

Anti gubbermint morons riding ATV's waving American flags, can't get any more oxymoronic than that.
 
Civil disobedience does not make one an anarchist or "anti government."
 
Civil disobedience does not make one an anarchist or "anti government."

For the sake of simplistically and disingenuously discrediting their cause, yes, it does.
 
Civil disobedience does not make one an anarchist or "anti government."

Civil disobedience is standing up for rights. No one has a right to drive an ATV or anything else just anywhere they decide they want to go.
 
Civil disobedience is standing up for rights. No one has a right to drive an ATV or anything else just anywhere they decide they want to go.
It's a good thing then that they weren't standing up for a right to drive ATVs or anything else anywhere they want to go.
 
It's a good thing then that they weren't standing up for a right to drive ATVs or anything else anywhere they want to go.

?? No? Were they actually standing up for religious freedom? For free speech? For a free press? What?
 
Civil disobedience does not make one an anarchist or "anti government."

Maybe the media hasn't gotten that message yet?

Protesters in Utah drive ATVs onto federal land — but find no showdown*-*Los Angeles Times

From the link;
On Saturday, a dozen sheriff's deputies watched the protest from horseback. BLM officials were not so visible. "They were here, but they didn't wear their uniforms," Sheriff Rick Eldredge said. "They didn't want a clash."

Antigovernment attitudes in the West have a long and virulent history, and recent public dialogue has remained marked by a threatening tone that prompted past BLM directors to travel with armed security.

It's a good thing then that they weren't standing up for a right to drive ATVs or anything else anywhere they want to go.

People just can't drive anywhere they want to. There are laws.
 
?? No? Were they actually standing up for religious freedom? For free speech? For a free press? What?
You mean you didn't actually read the article? Shocker.

Apparently, the county official leading the protest beilieves the BLM overstepped its authority in making a unilateral decision to close what is essentially a county road.
 
You mean you didn't actually read the article? Shocker.

Apparently, the county official leading the protest beilieves the BLM overstepped its authority in making a unilateral decision to close what is essentially a county road.
Close it to vehicles.
therefore, the protest was about where it would be legal to drive vehicles.

Not about any real civil liberties.
 
i'm going to ride an ATV in their backyards without permission. i wonder if MSNBC will cover it.
 
i'm going to ride an ATV in their backyards without permission. i wonder if MSNBC will cover it.

You might get shot at if you do, ya know, it's their private property...
 
People just can't drive anywhere they want to. There are laws.
Yes, because the protesters were fighting for the abolishment of all laws that keep them from driving where they want to. Did you even try to understand the issue? I suppose it's embarrassing either way, eh?
 
This is about civil disobedience to protect basic rights.

Driving ATVs in areas closed to vehicle traffic is not.
 
You mean you didn't actually read the article? Shocker.

Apparently, the county official leading the protest beilieves the BLM overstepped its authority in making a unilateral decision to close what is essentially a county road.

What's wrong with trying to protect archaeological artifacts and ancient ruins? You do know the ATV riders ticked off some Native Americans, right?

The BLM made the Recapture Canyon land off limits in 2007 because ATVs were damaging the land and folks were vandalizing Native American sites.

This tiff ain't about civil liberties.
 
You might get shot at if you do, ya know, it's their private property...

why should i have to accept that any more than they accept restricted areas of public land? i want to go muddin', and their back yards look like a great place to do it. i bet my Jeep would kick ass in their back yards.
 
Yes, because the protesters were fighting for the abolishment of all laws that keep them from driving where they want to. Did you even try to understand the issue? I suppose it's embarrassing either way, eh?

Yes, I understand the issue, the BLM or gubbermint is trying to protect and conserve artifacts, while riders of ATV's don't care what they tear up, after all, it's not their property, the artifacts belonged to Native Americans, why would they care?
 
Not four wheelers! They might make tracks and stuff.

How is it anarchy if people ride their four wheelers around? :lol:
 
why should i have to accept that any more than they accept restricted areas of public land? i want to go muddin', and their back yards look like a great place to do it. i bet my Jeep would kick ass in their back yards.

Well, you don't, but if you do, there could be some risk involved.
 
Close it to vehicles.
therefore, the protest was about where it would be legal to drive vehicles.

Not about any real civil liberties.
Keep telling yourself that... It's always easiest to win debates when you can make up your own facts.
 
Yes, I understand the issue, the BLM or gubbermint is trying to protect and conserve artifacts, while riders of ATV's don't care what they tear up, after all, it's not their property, the artifacts belonged to Native Americans, why would they care?

Does anyone really care?
 
Someone does.

Who really cares about old **** that is of no use to anyone?

It's always fun to say I care to make yourself seem all noble and ****, but in reality you don't care.
 
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