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Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

Fenton said:
Oh BS. Your'e full of s*** man.

We're just a little sick of the constant propaganda and hyperbole from these non-inclusive activist.

You know the ones who "celebrate diversity" but who demand that all other expression and opposition be silenced.

Hypoccrites.
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Hey, I call it like I see it.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) thats a lie can you point out where i said his sexual preference will make or not make him as a football player
2.) 100% false
3.) yes the lies you have posted are
4.) who said this was news because he is great? he hasnt played in the NFL yet?
5.) remains to be seen
6.) people that care about equality and equal rights

Ill be waiting for the proof of the lie you made up, simply qoute me saying sexuality makes a football player, ill be waiting LOL
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Cant you be honest ? At least have the guts to admit why you care about this guy.

It has NOTHING to do with Football ( where are all of your threads celebrating the other draft picks ? ) and has everything to do with this guys sexual preferences.

Lol...who do you think your'e fooling with this BS ?
 
Kobie said:
Hey, I call it like I see it.
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Get your eyes checked then.

Because you see what you want to see and its rather bigoted and narrow minded.
 
Fenton said:
Oh BS. Your'e full of s*** man.

We're just a little sick of the constant propaganda and hyperbole from these non-inclusive activist.

You know the ones who "celebrate diversity" but who demand that all other expression and opposition be silenced.

Hypoccrites.
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and this post say all we need to know

Please answer these questions and support your answers with facts

what agenda?
what hyperbole?
who are the non-inclusive activist?
who celebrates diversity and demands all other expression and opposition be "silenced"
 
Fenton said:
Get your eyes checked then.

Because you see what you want to see and its rather bigoted and narrow minded.
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It's "bigoted"? LOLOLOL

You guys don't get to change the meaning of that word to fit your rampant persecution complex.
 
Fenton said:
1.)Cant you be honest ?
2.)At least have the guts to admit why you care about this guy.
3.)It has NOTHING to do with Football
4.) ( where are all of your threads celebrating the other draft picks ? )
5.) and has everything to do with this guys sexual preferences.
6.) Lol...who do you think your'e fooling with this BS ?
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1.) yes and i factually never made the claim you suggest, this is why you havent quoted me yet because your statement was 100% false
2.) i dont care about the guy i care about equal rights and less discrimination and bigotry in the world. this fact wont change.
3.) 100% factually false, he is the first in FOOTBALL that factually deals with football
4.) I actually made some on a SPORTS BOARD lol
5.) 100% false again it has to do with equal rights
6.) you mean the facts that just proved your post wrong

let us know when you can qoute me saying that lie you posted, thanks in advance.
 
I think the NFL should mandate that the captains of opposing teams kiss each other after the coin toss........ratings would go through the roof........and 8 year old Pop Warner kids could emulate it and be enriched.....
 
AGENT J said:
1.) yes and i factually never made the claim you suggest, this is why you havent quoted me yet because your statement was 100% false
2.) i dont care about the guy i care about equal rights and less discrimination and bigotry in the world. this fact wont change.
3.) 100% factually false, he is the first in FOOTBALL that factually deals with football
4.) I actually made some on a SPORTS BOARD lol
5.) 100% false again it has to do with equal rights
6.) you mean the facts that just proved your post wrong

let us know when you can qoute me saying that lie you posted, thanks in advance.
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Your'e a huge sports fan but you think a 7th round draft pick deserves a thread ?

What the hell ?

Start a thread about Clowney or someone who deserve the distinction.

Not start a thread about a Gay dude because hes gay who's not even going to make the roster.
 
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soccerboy22 said:
In all fairness, I would flaunt anything having to do with Katherine Webb too.
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You're damn right, roll tide.
 
Kobie said:
It's "bigoted"? LOLOLOL

You guys don't get to change the meaning of that word to fit your rampant persecution complex.
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Whats Funny is YOU'RE the one who's redefining the word "bigot" without even realizing it.

You broadbrushed a select group based on your bigoted perceptions.

Liberals are so helplessly ignorant.
 
Fenton said:
1.)Your'e a huge sports fan but you think a 7th round draft pick deserves a thread ? What the hell ?
2.) Start a thread about Clowney or someone who deserve the distinction.
3.) Not start a thread about a Gay dude because hes gay who's not even going to make the roster.
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1.) again where did i say this? you continue to make stuff up
But on a sports board all drafts get talked about especially if that board has sub boards based on each team but again this isnt about 7th round pick its about equal rights and the lessening of hate, discriminating and bigotry.
2.) whats he have to do with equal rights?
3.) again none of this happened so you continued strawman continue to fail and get destroyed.

still waiting for that qoute by the way, why do you keep dodging this request.
 
Fenton said:
Whats Funny is YOU'RE the one who's redefining the word "bigot" without even realizing it.

You broadbrushed a select group based on your bigoted perceptions.

Liberals are so helplessly ignorant.
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did you really just say that? lol another post that totally fails and tells us all we need to know.
 
Fenton said:
Whats Funny is YOU'RE the one who's redefining the word "bigot" without even realizing it.

You broadbrushed a select group based on your bigoted perceptions.

Liberals are so helplessly ignorant.
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So you accuse me of broadbrushing a select group, and then you broadbrushed a select group.
 
Used to be coaches would pat you on the butt and say 'good hit' or something. I that happens with Michael Sam people will start talking! :lamo
 
Football is a rough sport. I think people are just beginning to understand the effects is has on people. Michael Sam appears to be happy, but like I say, he should be careful

College football players have visible brain changes

The brains of college football players may already display the effects of years of taking hits, according to a new brain imaging study.

Players who had been diagnosed with concussions and those who had been playing for years had smaller hippocampuses - a brain structure critical to memory - compared to those who never played football or played for fewer years, researchers found.

“Boys hear about the long-term effect on guys when they’re retired from football, but this shows that 20-year-olds might be having some kind of effect,” said Patrick Bellgowan, the study’s senior author from the Laureate Institute for Brain Research in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

The researchers write in JAMA that they didn’t find any differences in behavior between players and non-players, but Bellgowan told Reuters Health that a smaller hippocampus is linked to depression, schizophrenia and chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE).

There has been growing concern over whether the connection between contact sports - like football - and CTE, which is a brain disease known to affect some athletes who experience repeated hits to the head, may extend to younger players.

“We keep hearing about retired football players having diseases that relate back to smaller hippocampuses,” Bellgowan said. “Maybe this is just the precursor of it.”

The symptoms of CTE, which tend to set in years after the last traumas, often include memory loss, aggression and dementia.

Between June 2011 and August 2013 the researchers recruited 25 college football players who had been diagnosed with a concussion, 25 players without a history of diagnosed concussion and 25 similar young men who had never played.

The participants had magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of their brains and researchers used the images to measure the volume of certain brain regions. The athletes also took a computerized test to assess their cognitive abilities.

The researchers found that college athletes had hippocampuses between 17 percent and 26 percent smaller than non-athletes. Those who had been diagnosed with concussions also had smaller hippocampuses than the players without past concussions.

The longer the young men had played football, the smaller their hippocampuses were and the slower their reaction time on one of the tests.

“People try to understand why some NFL players have what looks like Alzheimer’s in their forties,” Dr. Jeffrey Bazarian said. “How did they get there? I think this study points out the early stages of that.”

Bazarian was not involved with the new research, but has studied the brains of young athletes at the University of Rochester Medical Center in Rochester, New York.

“Maybe there is something going on early on,” he said. “None of these players were feeling bad but their brain structure isn’t normal.”

Both Bellgowan and Bazarian said it will take longer studies to find out whether a smaller hippocampus may cause problems for these athletes in the future.

For now, Bellgowan suggested that parents and coaches take a conservative approach when dealing with student athletes by taking them to specialists when they walk off the field with a headache.

“The conservative approach is what I’m hoping to get out there,” he said.

Bellgowan is also on the faculty at the University of Tulsa, where, he said, "Participation of the athletic department was essential to this work."
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I remember once hitting this guy so hard I started seeing double. You keep doing that over and over, year after year, and there's no telling what sort of effect that has. Back then, a hit like that was glorified.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/us-brain-health-football-idUSKBN0DT24720140513
 
Kobie said:
Sports, especially immensely popular professional sports like the NFL, aren't part of the culture?
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No, there have been queers in the sporting world for years. Nothing Sam can add will enhance it. In fact, when old Michael meets the turk he'll be nothing but a bad memory.
 
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ludin said:
I agree.

it isn't that ground breaking and the only reason it is ground breaking is because he said he was gay. big friggen deal. i am hetrosexual where is my media spotlight and everything else. there were several other hetrosexual drafts that went higher so i don't see a big deal being made over them.
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There is a point where you keep saying things like this and people will have to simply ignore you because we already explained it.

who cares if he was that it isn't the big deal that people are making out of it.
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Why.

the bigger deal will come when he gets cut if he does for not being able to perform. we will see how these same media people react. i am sure that they will call for the coach to be fired and to boycott the rams.
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Except we know that that isn't going to happen because we saw with the NBA player who came out when he started the year without a job.
 
jmotivator said:
I'm really not sure how many more ways I can say to you that it was no secret when I played football in the 1980s in high school, let alone the NFL before it sinks into your skull. Hell, the ever changing helmet technology over the last 80+ years of NFL history is a clue that the NFL was well aware of the potential for head and brain injury among its players.
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The fact that colleges and high schools started wearing helmets in the 19th century (1893 Army vs Navy) should tell you EVERYBODY was aware of that potential before the NFL was ever heard of.
 
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HogWash said:
The fact that colleges and high schools started wearing helmets in the 19th century (1893 Army vs Navy) should tell you EVERYBODY was aware of that potential before the NFL was ever heard of.
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It's stating the obvious to say that people knew there was a potential for head injury. What is different is that people are now more aware of the various types of injuries that may happen from blows to the head. For example, someone can get hit and it may not be apparent at the moment that there is something wrong, but sustaining blows over and over again over a period of years can have effects that are only recently known.
 
MildSteel said:
And you have offered no evidence that it was "common knowledge" other than to assert that it was so. I have offered evidence to support the notion that it was not widely known the extent of the permanent damage that could occur as a result of repeated blows to the head in football.
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*sigh* Yeah, 80+ years of advancing helmet science and personal experience says people knew that playing football threatened brain damage... except you say it doesn't because you don't seem to understand that people suspect things before they conduct a study (why else pursue the topic?), or admit it is a potential problem (when millions of dollars are at stake). Like I said, there is no other way to explain it to you.
 
jmotivator said:
*sigh* Yeah, 80+ years of advancing helmet science and personal experience says people knew that playing football threatened brain damage... except you say it doesn't because you don't seem to understand that people suspect things before they conduct a study (why else pursue the topic?), or admit it is a potential problem (when millions of dollars are at stake). Like I said, there is no other way to explain it to you.
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Like I was saying to the other poster, of course people knew there was a potential for head injury. But at one time, I was around quite a bit of football. I just don't see how anyone can say that it was widely known that there was a large risk associated with repeated blows to the head that might not manifest themselves as injury immediately, but could have devastating effects over the long term.
 
MildSteel said:
Like I was saying to the other poster, of course people knew there was a potential for head injury. But at one time, I was around quite a bit of football. I just don't see how anyone can say that it was widely known that there was a large risk associated with repeated blows to the head that might not manifest themselves as injury immediately, but could have devastating effects over the long term.
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And like I said, those of us paying attention knew the risk because we followed boxing and could put 2 and 2 together.
 
jmotivator said:
And like I said, those of us paying attention knew the risk because we followed boxing and could put 2 and 2 together.
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Well I didn't. And I was from a football family. I used to party with people in the pros. I don't ever recall anyone mentioning it.
 
I was just thinking that football has been associated with modern conceptions of what it means to be a man. This event demonstrates that those notions are undergoing fundamental change. At the same time it will have the effect of changing those notions as well. It's interesting how that works in both directions.
 
northwinds said:
The NFL is there for a reason.........to promote the leftist agenda. First they spent a generation promoting blacks....since 1989 the league has consistently drafted only 20-25 percent White players.......now they have taken on the gay agenda with fervor........complete with kissing males on national television. And if you don't go along with the agenda........you are punished like the Miami player who sent out negative tweets about the televised kissing. My generation grew up on football and it's hard to put it down.......but the younger White kids are playing lacrosse and asking their Dads 'why do you spend all weekend watching a bunch of dreadlocked thugs knock into each other?'
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Naw, the younger White kids aren't asking that, it's their butthurt dads who were never able to compete at that level, mad because they see a group of people they that they were better than making the cut.
 
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