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Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

Logicman said:
It's not Judgment, it's enlightenment. Trying to save the unregenerate is the work of God's people.

"When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved." - Ezekiel 33
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What if that isn't true? What if that is nothing but a book written by people thousands of years ago? What if God is actually disappointed in you for treating your fellow human beings with such contempt?

There is nothing wrong with being a part of the LGBT spectrum, and any religion that would say otherwise is wrong.
 
Top Cat said:
LOLOL...so if the Constitution said 1787 A.D. it would be secular? You do realize that Anno Domini means in the year of our lord? Again, show me where God is mentioned in the Constitution. This is a date for crying out loud.
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It says in "the year of OUR LORD." And that would be Jesus.

Here's something else you can wolf down for enlightenment on the subject. I seriously doubt any of you have ever studied the subject.

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Your Star said:
What if that isn't true? What if that is nothing but a book written by people thousands of years ago? What if God is actually disappointed in you for treating your fellow human beings with such contempt?

There is nothing wrong with being a part of the LGBT spectrum, and any religion that would say otherwise is wrong.
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And what if you're wrong and many are deceived into thinking it's ok only to live a life trapped in sin and then being judged for it?

The Bible clearly says that having homosexual sex is a sin and in the past the death penalty was applied to homosexual sex when God was aggressively purging sin from the camp to prepare the Israelites to inherit the promise land, it's simply not acceptable as a moral practice or tenant in holy living and is a form of sexual sin like adultery. If the Bible is the Word of God then that means homosexuals that have sex are living in sin, and as such they will be judged for it unless they repent.

What makes you claim that every religion that says otherwise is wrong? What authority or scripture do you base that off of?
 
AGENT J said:
again your opinion doesnt matte in anyway. Its pure entertainment and hilarious LMAO
WHat if its not a sin to Mikes religion?
In fact when I see hate like you posted I thank god I live in the country I do.

sorry peoples rights and freedom bothers you lol
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Hey - if the pro-sodomy crowd wants to go public they get public feedback. It's called the FIRST AMENDMENT. Now I know folks like you don't like anyone disagreeing with your little gay pride parades, but that's too bad.

And it's not Hate according to God when you try to turn someone to repentance and salvation. You'd prefer to slap them on the back and tell them what a wonderful thing they're doing, all the way down to the Pit. So with friends like you who needs enemies!?
 
Your Star said:
Your religion is pointless to anyone else but you.
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It's not pointless to the billion + believers on earth who are now going to heaven instead of sluffing back in their couches condemning whoever else is out there trying to save people.
 
Your Star said:
What if that isn't true? What if that is nothing but a book written by people thousands of years ago? What if God is actually disappointed in you for treating your fellow human beings with such contempt?

There is nothing wrong with being a part of the LGBT spectrum, and any religion that would say otherwise is wrong.
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I'll take the Word of God over your opinion.
 
Logicman said:
It's not pointless to the billion + believers on earth who are now going to heaven instead of sluffing back in their couches condemning whoever else is out there trying to save people.
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Link?
 
Logicman said:
And it's not Hate according to God when you try to turn someone to repentance and salvation. You'd prefer to slap them on the back and tell them what a wonderful thing they're doing, all the way down to the Pit.
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You keep referring to the pit. Where is this pit? Oh wait, it's make believe.
 
Logicman said:
1.)Hey - if the pro-sodomy crowd wants to go public they get public feedback. It's called the FIRST AMENDMENT.
2.)Now I know folks like you don't like anyone disagreeing with your little gay pride parades, but that's too bad.
3.)And it's not Hate according to God when you try to turn someone to repentance and salvation.
4.) You'd prefer to slap them on the back and tell them what a wonderful thing they're doing, all the way down to the Pit.
5.) So with friends like you who needs enemies!?
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1.) LOL pro-sodomy please keep this up!
2.) not gay lol the failure of your posts and our entertainment continues
3.) another opinion you are welcome too that you cant support with any facts.
4.) yes I like that others that might not disagree with me have that right and freedom too, they are grown adults they knew theres other views i dont have to insult them, hate them and force mine on them. Its an amazing concept that maked people a good person
5.) actually the opposite is true because with a friend like me people have allies that would fight and protect thier rights and freedoms even if we disagree with them.

again sorry freedom and rights bother you, maybe one day youll find a country that isnt for freedoms amd rights and just uses force . . . you could try russia LMAO

please keep this entertainment up its hilarious!thank you!
 
digsbe said:
And what if you're wrong and many are deceived into thinking it's ok only to live a life trapped in sin and then being judged for it?

The Bible clearly says that having homosexual sex is a sin and in the past the death penalty was applied to homosexual sex when God was aggressively purging sin from the camp to prepare the Israelites to inherit the promise land, it's simply not acceptable as a moral practice or tenant in holy living and is a form of sexual sin like adultery. If the Bible is the Word of God then that means homosexuals that have sex are living in sin, and as such they will be judged for it unless they repent.

What makes you claim that every religion that says otherwise is wrong? What authority or scripture do you base that off of?
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Common sense and logic. Being gay harms no one, in fact, the belief that homosexuality is a sin actually causes harm in and of itself. So, if anything is immoral here, it is the belief that homosexuality is wrong, not being gay.
 
AGENT J said:
again sorry freedom and rights bother you, maybe one day youll find a country that isnt for freedoms amd rights and just uses force . . . you could try russia LMAO
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Sorry my right to freedom to speech bothers you. You might like Cuba where people like you can stifle free speech.
 
Your Star said:
Common sense and logic. Being gay harms no one, in fact, the belief that homosexuality is a sin actually causes harm in and of itself. So, if anything is immoral here, it is the belief that homosexuality is wrong, not being gay.
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There's a difference of opinion on that.

Homosexual sin - No harm?

First, "gay pride" (two sins). They flaunt it in our faces and try to legitimize it. You don't hear of "adultery pride" parades or "necrophilia pride" parades do you? But even if there were we'd take an equally stellar stance against those. We don't want to hear about it.

Second, most homosexuals who claim to be Christian try to persuade others it's not a sin, leading many (many) into perdition. We don't want to see even one soul lost.

Third, most homosexuals distort the scriptures in some fashion or another in order to try to justify their sin. The distort who Jesus is (saying he's not God so he never spoke out against gay sex sin); they make lengthly arguments against Leviticus, Romans 1:26-27, I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc. Generally, they attack the Word of God and thus attack God himself. We defend the Word and God.

Fourth: Sin is a reproach to individuals and nations and brings God's disfavor on men and nations. Read Deuteronomy chapter 28 to see the curses of disobedience.

Fifth, they attack the Sons and Daughters of God when we stand up for the truth of God's Word. They call us bigots, homophobes, and all manner of names because we disagree with their stance.

Sixth, they push their illicit agenda into every corner of America. Suing the Boy Scouts and anyone else who disagrees with them. They try and sometimes succeed in pushing their gay agenda in elementary schools and elsewhere where it doesn't belong. Nine year old children shouldn't have to hear that Billy's daddy is doing another guy, or that it's ok to do it. They push their agenda in our faces until we're quite sick of it. We don't need to know which way people perform sex acts.

Seventh: (need I go on?) They (and heterosexual sinners) cost taxpayers untold billions in unnecessary health care costs to treat AIDS and other diseases they give to each other. It costs us all money out of our pockets.

And eighth: They refuse to repent of it, making their own salvation and those who they lead astray a serious question mark.

And there's more but that's for starters.
 
Logicman said:
I'll take the Word of God over your opinion.
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And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh, that's right, other people. So you're not really taking the word of God, you're taking the word of other people who claim to have the word of God on their side. There's a big difference there.
 
Logicman said:
1.)Sorry my right to freedom to speech bothers you. You might like Cuba where people like you can stifle free speech.
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LMAO thats great, thats the best lie you posted yet. If you disagree PLEASE ACTUALLY point out where i said i dont want you to have freedom of speech?
guess lying isnt a sin to you?

Your posts and its lies fail again lol
 
Your Star said:
And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh, that's right, other people. So you're not really taking the word of God, you're taking the word of other people who claim to have the word of God on their side. There's a big difference there.
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There's a thread in the Philosophy forum titled "Evidence for God / the Bible". You might want to review all the evidence that has been presented there that supports the Bible being the Word of God.
 
Logicman said:
There's a thread in the Philosophy forum titled "Evidence for God / the Bible". You might want to review all the evidence that has been presented there.
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It's not legitimate evidence. At the end of the day, you are just taking other people's word for what you believe to be the word of God. You, nor anyone else, has any actual evidence.
 
Logicman said:
It's not Judgment, it's enlightenment. Trying to save the unregenerate is the work of God's people.

"When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved." - Ezekiel 33
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So the New Testament has no place in how you practice your faith?
 
Your Star said:
It's not legitimate evidence. At the end of the day, you are just taking other people's word for what you believe to be the word of God. You, nor anyone else, has any actual evidence.
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It's legitimate in the opinions of many - including many who were formerly skeptics.
 
Logicman said:
It's legitimate in the opinions of many - including many who were formerly skeptics.
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And at the end of the day, they are just taking someone else's word for what they believe to be the word of God.
 
Logicman said:
There's a thread in the Philosophy forum titled "Evidence for God / the Bible". You might want to review all the evidence that has been presented there that supports the Bible being the Word of God.
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Hilarious. A thread that proves it?
 
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