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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    By fans and media maybe. However, half the people loved him because of his faith and pretended he was better than he was. Sam is no different in that respect. A **** load of people want him to fail or succeed based on his sexuality (like tebow and his faith) rather than on his football ability.
    I don't know about that.

    I don't know anyone who is actually rooting for Sam to fail. I think most of us are just annoyed that liberals have hijacked the offseason for political reasons. Sam is just kind of a marginal player who almost certainly won't last in the pros. That has nothing to do with his sexuality and everything to do with the fact that he's not really a professional caliber athlete. There are worse things in life than not being a future Hall of Famer.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I don't know about that.

    I don't know anyone who is actually rooting for Sam to fail. I think most of us are just annoyed that liberals have hijacked the offseason for political reasons. Sam is just kind of a marginal player who almost certainly won't last in the pros. That has nothing to do with his sexuality and everything to do with the fact that he's not really a professional caliber athlete. There are worse things in life than not being a future Hall of Famer.
    His sexuality aside, he was projected to be drafted prior to his sexuality announcement. The NFL has plenty of late round and even undrafted players in their mix. He got drafted because of what he did in college and how the Rams think his game will translate to the pros. Can you really point to anything that really states that he shouldn't have been drafted and is not a professional caliber athlete? In fact he was projected slightly higher prior to this announcement.

    Gay or straight we was likely going to get drafted and there is huge gap between not a pro caliber athlete and future hall of famer. Big gap. He is in and will have every opportunity to stay just like every other rookie. He will earn his spot or lose it. You can nitpick terminology but saying that he is not a pro caliber player is really no different than what I said.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    In fact he was projected slightly higher prior to this announcement.
    The vast majority of projection sites had him rated as a 3-5th rounder pretty much the ENTIRE time. Yes, he fell more clearly into the "5th round" bracket after his announcement....but then again, the Combine was also after his announcement and he put up horrible numbers there. Multiple straight players ALSO had their ratings drop from early in the draft process to later. That's the nature of how the draft evaluation process works.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

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    TB, you liked the post that I responded to...how is that being critical of it?
    The post I quoted that was yours was yiur post #490. If you look at that post of yours, you were responding to a post of Kobie's.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Liberals ARE ignorant.

    That's a axiomatic truth that reaffirms itself daily on this very forum.
    And it's statements like this that make discourse with you completely pointless.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    I thought he just wanted to be a football player.

    Now he's signed with Oprah to do a reality show about his tryout with the Rams.

    Drama queen.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I thought he just wanted to be a football player.

    Now he's signed with Oprah to do a reality show about his tryout with the Rams.

    Drama queen.
    He may be hedging his bets in case the football thing doesn't work out. It's pretty smart actually from a certain point of view...
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What does Michael Sam being picked in the 7th round have to do with " equal rights " ??
    1st or last round doesnt matter lol
    but the questions is easy he is the FIRST openly gay player and 10 years ago that would have never of happened or MINIMUM been alot less likely.
    Equal rights is advancing for sexuality. Equality is winning and bigotry and discrimination is losing, there are great times we are witnessing. I wish equal rights already existed on this issue but IM proud to be witness to this equality.

    You know exactly what all these extra news stories are about the ones you are crying about.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Liberals ARE ignorant.

    That's a axiomatic truth that reaffirms itself daily on this very forum.
    LOL more dishonesty and factual hypocrisy AWESOME!
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1st or last round doesnt matter lol
    but the questions is easy he is the FIRST openly gay player and 10 years ago that would have never of happened or MINIMUM been alot less likely.
    Equal rights is advancing for sexuality. Equality is winning and bigotry and discrimination is losing, there are great times we are witnessing. I wish equal rights already existed on this issue but IM proud to be witness to this equality.

    You know exactly what all these extra news stories are about the ones you are crying about.
    Same with Saba. Please tell me what barriers existed 10 years ago for an openly gay player to be picked or drafted onto a team? Did the NFL change its rules on drafting openly gay people? Does or did the NFL have any such rule, written or unwritten that would have prevented this from happening 10 years ago? The only people crying about this and making a big hubbaloo is folks like you, and Michael Sam, and a salivating media. Anyone that cares about any professional sport would welcome a gifted player onto their team, and I suspect that it matters if they were little green men from Mars, as long as they helped their team win, fans are very forgiving when it comes to winning...

    The cynic in me thinks that Michael Sam is a borderline narcissist which has been found to be way more prevalent in gay men than straight men, and Mike probably thought in a calculated move that regardless of how it all turned out, the LGBT movement would progress as a result of his declaring his sexuality prior to entering the draft. It was win/win for them, and he. When folks like you and Saba and the stupid salivating media stop making it an issue, it will no longer be one. Until then, the race hustlers like Sharpton and Co, openness about sexuality, like race, will remain an issue for those that stand to profit from it.

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