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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Since when is SEC defender of year a 7th round pick? Pretty sure cause he's gay. Should've been more like 5th round pick at least, or taken by a team that needs DLs more. So yeah it is news because most the NFL and especially their fans are too bigoted for a gay player and still stuck in 1950s, and yet Sam had the courage to come out before draft
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    LOL yeah right, SEC defender of the year not picked at all. But then here's just another attempt to bash while pretending not to
    People are giving his SEC Co-Defender of the Year award far too much attention.

    He was a very good college football player but we're talking about pro football now. There are plenty of great college football players who make terrible professional athletes. It's not even remotely uncommon. SEC Co-Defender of the Year? Have any of you looked at the awards Tim Tebow won while at college? His college career blows Sam's out of the water but he now co-hosts SEC Nation.

    I don't doubt that Sam's a nice guy but he's not a NFL caliber player and we wouldn't be talking about him if not for his sexuality.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Back to the original topic, I don't think knowing what a guy likes to do with his genitals is really a reason to elevate his status among 200+ other players that worked equally hard to be drafted into the NFL.

    There is no history of great gay football players that were denied access to the league due to their sexual preference. There is no gay equivalent to Satchel Paige or Josh Gibson languishing in a Gay League because they couldn't play in the majors. But maybe more importantly, Sam is not the equivalent of Jackie Robinson who was simply so amazingly talented that he shattered the separate but equal barrier in his sport. More surprising to the spectator was not the color of Robinson's skin, but the quality of his play. Sam is not likely to be that good. He will likely be a serviceable backup for a few years and then drift out of the league. He is likely never to have his play outshine his sexual preference.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We'll just force the NFL to play touch football.
    That is why I found the old player's comments so funny and insightful. If you took away the false sense of security of a big heavy helmet on the player's head they would simply opt to not lead with their head anymore naturally.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That is why I found the old player's comments so funny and insightful. If you took away the false sense of security of a big heavy helmet on the player's head they would simply opt to not lead with their head anymore naturally.
    Make them play with no helmets, like rugby.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    If he would have just played football and kept his personal business to himself, he would have been drafted earlier and made millions.
    That's doubtful.

    His personal life has gotten him all over the news but the fact of the matter is he was never expected to be an especially good professional athlete and his Combine was atrocious. We already knew he was undersized but the Combine told us he was slow and weak too. We knew he would almost certainly have to change positions in the pros but the Combine told us there might not even be a position for him.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I posted this earlier in the thread. I think it needs to be restated.
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    Homosexuality is more than just "his sex life." When people boil the whole concept of love, attraction and commitment down to "his sex life," then all it proves is they truly don't understand anything about the subject.
    Perhaps you need to repost this, which is another reason to scrutinize gays in the NFL:

    CDC: Syphilis Resurgence Among Gay Men 'Major Public Health Concern'
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    1. I fully agree that the Olympics goes way over the top with the personal interest stuff. I'm not sure how that's "feminizing" them, however.

    2. The Sam thing is not remotely in that vein. It's a cultural milestone.
    2. I thought Elton John and the Village People were the "cultural" milestones.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I agree with you on the context of the posts, but come on...what you just said is really silly.
    Actually no.I was using Wist's pretzel logic. He's the one that threw that bs out there. Why aren't you calling out wist for suggesting that homosexuality equals pedophilia?

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Yes, "the horror"... in front of MY CHILDREN - just as it would inappropriate for me to swear in front of your children..
    **** I do it all the time. I'd swear in front of yours too. Especially since I know how uptight you are about it.

    It's about respect for others, and about decency in front of people who may be offended.
    No. It's about you and your ilk wanting to impose your beliefs on others. You're the type that get your bvds all bundled when a woman nurses her baby in public. Shall we all dress like you too?
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    I do not let my children watch violence or sex, and while it is my nature to cuss like a sailor, I refrain around my children for their sake - beyond that, I fully understand that it is inappropriate to behave in these ways in front of other people's children. You, and it would seem most homosexuals, seem to think you can do anything you want in front of someone elses child - so why wouldn't any logical person conclude that you will eventually say it is okay to moleste my child??
    Took you a while to get there, but thanks for clearing it all up. Homosexuality = Pedophilia. Isn't that special? Your deep rooted hatred comes out. You really should try to be a little less paranoid and check the facts. Facts are your friend.



    Only you won't call it molesting, you will call it 'sexual enlightenment of youth'.
    You got it bad.

    Like I said, I don't care who you hump - knock yourself out,
    Clearly you do.

    but have the decency to keep it to yourself. There's a time and place for everything - you seem not to have learned how to behave in public, and with respect for others.
    I have zero respect for thumpers such as yourself that refuse to look at facts.

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