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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about suggests that you have an ideological reason to say this.
    I'm expressing an opinion, just like anyone else.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Tralfamadore View Post
    He became a free agent after he came out as being gay. He was out of the NBA for like a few months.

    So, no.
    And, now he's back, in the NBA.

    The Nets picked him up for the 2014 season.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm expressing an opinion, just like anyone else.
    one based clearly on a false belief. In both cases you mention things happened EXACTLY as everyone in the business suggested it would. You attributing anything to either being gay is simply ridiculous.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    one based clearly on a false belief. In both cases you mention things happened EXACTLY as everyone in the business suggested it would. You attributing anything to either being gay is simply ridiculous.
    It's "false"...in your opinion.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    the anti-gay crowd hate this because he was drafted exactly where he was projected early in the process. He is an tween guy and some can be learned. He may make the team and he will likely be a mediocre player. He got no special treatment for being gay and likely only got passed over by a team or two. He has skills just not the body for the NFL as a starter. The real question would be if he had 20 lbs more muscle and 2 inches and didn't get drafted until now. But good luck to him. He will go to mini camp.

    Now it is a story in part because he is gay and open about it. (there have been plenty of gay NFL players) But like when any barrier is broken it is news.
    before the combine, he was projected as a 4th round pick... most wrote him off entirely after the combine, he was just that bad.

    7th round was a very generous pick

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    one based clearly on a false belief. In both cases you mention things happened EXACTLY as everyone in the business suggested it would. You attributing anything to either being gay is simply ridiculous.
    it's really no different than you opining he received no special treatment for being gay...so i wouldn't take this track too far.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A professional basketball player that no one had ever heard of and who was fixing to find himself in the real world, looking for gainful employment.
    That's a rather disgusting thing to say - to suggest that the only reason one is open about their sexuality is to find employment opportunities.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Tralfamadore View Post
    That's a rather disgusting thing to say - to suggest that the only reason one is open about their sexuality is to find employment opportunities.
    Is it? Most experts were saying before he came out that the chances he would get drafted were very slim. It's entirely likely he was drafted just so the Rams could say they were first in accepting gays.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    which is a smart choice ...and more believable than the " tired of living a lie" argument.
    The tired of living a lie is also, most likely, apart of it as well. It very much sucks and is quite suffocating living a lie.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He wanted to create job security...LOL!!! Just like Jason Collins. Collins was out of the NBA, before he came out of the closet.
    Yeah, because being the first gay NFL prospect to come out really helped his draft prospects.

    If anything, it hurt his prospects.
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