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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Cris Collinsworth is wrong. There.

    Newsbusters? C'mon, TB, you're way better than that.
    So they made up that entire exchange, Kobie? No, they didn't.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) because if its in the paper its a fact LMAO
    2.) nobody how many people pay for the Koran, must make it true and factual and all other religions are fake your logic complete fails and gets destroyed again

    maybe this time you wont dodge the question (which is VERY telling)

    was Tebo the only christian in the NFL? are thier Christians in the NFL now?
    Show me all the articles written about the other Christians in the NFL. Then show me how many times Bill Maher tweeted profanity-laced crap about the other Christians in the NFL.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So they made up that entire exchange, Kobie? No, they didn't.
    I actually remember watching that episode of Inside the NFL and vehemently disagreeing with Collinsworth.

    It's not the religion, it's the hype. And nobody (and I mean NOBODY) got as much unmerited hype as Tim Tebow. ESPN was wall-to-wall Tebow for the better part of a year and a half.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    We need to get off the subject of Tebow and back to the OP.

    My last post on Tebow - he was one hell of a college player. Not fit for the NFL. Then again, neither were Matt Leinart and Tim Brown and Rocket Ishmael and Rodney Hampton....

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Show me all the articles written about the other Christians in the NFL. Then show me how many times Bill Maher tweeted profanity-laced crap about the other Christians in the NFL.
    another dodge!
    lets try AGAIN

    are there other Christians in the NFL? its a very simple question why wont you answer it?

    heres some more questions:
    are the majority of NFL players, owners, employees christian?
    are the majority of NFL fans christian?

    are the majority of NFL players, owners, employees gay?
    are the majority of NFL fans gay?

    how many players/owners have been outed, fired, teased, ridiculed, denied jobs for being gay/Christian?

    any comparasion to Tebo and mik
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We need to get off the subject of Tebow and back to the OP.

    My last post on Tebow - he was one hell of a college player. Not fit for the NFL. Then again, neither were Matt Leinart and Tim Brown and Rocket Ishmael and Rodney Hampton....
    Rodney Hampton? What was wrong with Rodney Hampton?

    And Tim Brown? Tim Brown's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

    Rocket Ismail screwed himself by going to Canada. Matt Leinart just blows.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) but it does, reality does make it matter, it forces it to matter, bigotry, hate and rampant history of discrimaintion makes it matter
    2.) factually false considering #1. again reality makes it matter.
    3.) nope SOME of the people are supporting the advancement of equality and ability for it to start not to matter and some do not. Nothing bigoted about that per the definition of the word. Now if a person wanted him to get drafted ONLY because he was gay that would be bigoted but thats not the case with the news and majority of supporters.
    4.) again also false unless it fits the very small example above.

    It would only be bad and bigoted if it fir that example
    The news was the draft. It's about football skills, that's it. Sexuality plays no part in the sport. I have never seen anyone getting it on in the endzone (no pun intended) nor on the fifty yard line. The NFL draft is no place for gay advancement agendas, that inho belongs in the policy making quarters of society. Football is a family entertainment venue and all political agendas should be outside that realm. So you may consider touting sexuality issues in an adult only policy venue.
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    1.)The news was the draft.
    2.) It's about football skills, that's it.
    3.)Sexuality plays no part in the sport.
    4) I have never seen anyone getting it on in the endzone (no pun intended) nor on the fifty yard line.
    5.) The NFL draft is no place for gay advancement agendas, that inho belongs in the policy making quarters of society.
    6.) Football is a family entertainment venue
    7.) and all political agendas should be outside that realm.
    8.) So you may consider touting sexuality issues in an adult only policy venue.
    1.) and normal draft news i going on as usual that hasnt changes.
    but what is ALSO news is a person, the first person ever was able to over come the discrimination, bigotry, hate and stereotypical boundaries that reality/history has in place and that is going to be news in itself whtether you like it or not. Again facts and reality make it that way.
    2.) correct this is why bigots should stop saying he is going to suck only because he is gay, he may suck, he may be great but it wont be because of his sexuality.
    3.) also correct thats why the stories arent about sexuality and the sport but sexuality and the accomplishment/barriers over come.
    4.) ok thanks for the meaningless point lol
    5.) also correct and its not an AGENDA (thats just dumb) its just a FACT that this barrier was over come and sports IS society
    6.) and it still is and equal rights is a win for family
    7.) correct ans this is why there should be equality in the NFL just like everywhere hopefully we get there soon
    8.) no need because equality effects us all and sexuality has been in the NFL for ever.

    so again no bigotry here except for those against equality
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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Rodney Hampton? What was wrong with Rodney Hampton?

    And Tim Brown? Tim Brown's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

    Rocket Ismail screwed himself by going to Canada. Matt Leinart just blows.
    Rodney Hampton sucked. Ugh.

    Tim Brown wasn't as good as they said he was going to be.

    Two more names - Vinny Testaverde and Doug Flutie.

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    Re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    another dodge!
    lets try AGAIN

    are there other Christians in the NFL? its a very simple question why wont you answer it?

    heres some more questions:
    are the majority of NFL players, owners, employees christian?
    are the majority of NFL fans christian?

    are the majority of NFL players, owners, employees gay?
    are the majority of NFL fans gay?

    how many players/owners have been outed, fired, teased, ridiculed, denied jobs for being gay/Christian?

    any comparasion to Tebo and mik
    Was Tebow's religion discussed ad nauseum or not? The other questions you're asking have nothing to do with that.

    Tebow isn't gay, you do know that I assume?

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