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Thread: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    But I am done with the National Felons League. and not because of micheal sam
    LOL @ national felons league

    Why don't you like the NFL?

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    Common sense and logic. Being gay harms no one, in fact, the belief that homosexuality is a sin actually causes harm in and of itself. So, if anything is immoral here, it is the belief that homosexuality is wrong, not being gay.
    But that's your sense and logic. As a biologist I could apply the logic that homosexual sex is detrimental to the population advancing itself and is a form of sexual dysfunction at the psychological/social level. Would I be right, would you be wrong? You claim that believing that homosexuality is a sin causes harm, how so? How does believing something harm someone? Your ideals are based on your own experiences and your own relative train of thought. That's fine, but someone else's relative ideas are equal to yours in the absence of a higher authority. Someone could argue that being gay (gay males) have higher rates of HIV transmission and that harms the population by having a population have risky sexual activity that spreads infection of an expensive and deadly illness. The reason why relative morals fail is that they can conflict and both beliefs cannot be both right and wrong.

    You as an individual have no authority to pronounce something as sin or say something else is immoral, your ideas and logic/common sense that being gay harms no one and that simply believing that homosexuality is wrong is immoral is your own and really holds no weight compared to what any other random person thinks. The issue is that there is a higher authority that pronounces it wrong. Homosexual sex isn't a sin because digsbe says so, it's a sin because God does and digsbe accepts that fact instead of trying to deny it or rationalize around it. To claim I'm wrong would mean to prove that God isn't real or that the Biblical God is false or prove theologically that the Bible doesn't say homosexuality is sin and the belief we take from that is made in error.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    It's not legitimate evidence. At the end of the day, you are just taking other people's word for what you believe to be the word of God. You, nor anyone else, has any actual evidence.
    Although there is some merit to what you say, you don't know that no one has any actual evidence. You can say no one that you know of, or no one that you believe has any actually evidence. That's about it.

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    But that's your sense and logic. As a biologist I could apply the logic that homosexual sex is detrimental to the population advancing itself and is a form of sexual dysfunction at the psychological/social level. .
    You could do. But people might call you bat **** crazy for doing so. Just saying.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Although there is some merit to what you say, you don't know that no one has any actual evidence. You can say no one that you know of, or no one that you believe has any actually evidence. That's about it.
    That's total freaking nonsense. You have no evidence because there is no real evidence.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    LOL @ national felons league

    Why don't you like the NFL?
    Oh please don't get him started.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That's total freaking nonsense. You have no evidence because there is no real evidence.
    Where is your evidence that there is no evidence?

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh please don't get him started.
    Sorry! I take it back! Yikes!

    It sounds like something that I won't like.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Sorry! I take it back! Yikes!

    It sounds like something that I won't like.
    Only if you like facts.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Where is your evidence that there is no evidence?
    I'm not the one trying to prove a book of fairy tales is the real deal. I'm not that foolish.

    There is no proof. The reason is simple. It doesn't exist. There isn't one single fact that proves the bible is from God. Not one.
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