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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    The truth is the truth. You'd prefer you Christ-deniers dictate what's right and wrong, right?
    No. I would prefer you leave the judgement of sinners to your God and instead of taking on the role of your god by casting judgment you instead take on the role of the messenger of the word of your god and set an example of how having him as a part of your life has benefited you. Generating a curiosity on the part of those who observe that happiness and peace that they might then explore that faith. And that that exploration be left to them and your god while you stand back in a quietly supportive role thus exhibiting your faith in the competence of your god to manage his potential followers
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    The truth is the truth. You'd prefer you Christ-deniers dictate what's right and wrong, right?
    Yes. Yes, I would.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    During that brief 3.5 year average NFL career they make $1.9 million, hardly leaving them in the Joe Sixpack category.

    The average career earnings of athletes across America’s major sports will shock you | For The Win

    Those lasting 3.5 years are not averaging 1.9 million. Those numbers are dramatically skewed by the few that make the big dollars, so let's try to be a little bit accurate.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'd expect 23-year-olds making $600,000 a year to get in more trouble than they do, to be honest.
    So much for the poverty causes crime BS.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Saying sin is wrong is not condemning people. So please get a better argument.
    My bad, clearly you're lauding his behavior here. What was I thinking? Seriously, look up the word, link provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Way to celebrate sin, Agent J. Just because somebody trashes the scriptures and engages in carnal sodomy in violation of God's law isn't a legitimate reason to make a public spectacle over it.

    I wish him well as a football player but would strongly advise him to repent of his sin(s).
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    As for what Christ would do, read Revelation chapter 2 to see how he judges sexual immorality.
    I have no interest whatsoever in looking up your version of fiction.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So much for the poverty causes crime BS.
    I don't think anyone has ever claimed that poverty causes crime. Poverty can be (and quite often is) a contributing factor to many crimes, and it certainly is a factor in arrest and incarceration rates.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    The Nazis thought they had all the answers, too.
    Dumbest godwin of the week. Congratz bro.

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    There's another one of your fairy tales.

    The Constitution is dated in “the year of our Lord," 1787.
    LOLOL...so if the Constitution said 1787 A.D. it would be secular? You do realize that Anno Domini means in the year of our lord? Again, show me where God is mentioned in the Constitution. This is a date for crying out loud.
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Report: Four teams liked Michael Sam if he want undrafted - CBSSports.com

    If the draft had finished without Michael Sam being selected, he would have had an NFL job within about five minutes. This idea that he was "only drafted because he is gay" is utterly stupid on every conceivable level.
    Can't that whole argument be crushed if you just look at his stats? I mean I realize that other factors are taken into consideration but don't his stats fall within the range of other other players that have been drafted from college? If his stats don't put him into the top 2% or whatever who's to say what else was considered that made someone decide he was worth a try?
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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Can't that whole argument be crushed if you just look at his stats? I mean I realize that other factors are taken into consideration but don't his stats fall within the range of other other players that have been drafted from college? If his stats don't put him into the top 2% or whatever who's to say what else was considered that made someone decide he was worth a try?
    College stats mean surprisingly little when it comes to NFL potential.
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