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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    So Richard Dawkins doesn't count as a legitimate atheist opinion?
    Is he here on this forum?
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    So Richard Dawkins doesn't count as a legitimate atheist opinion?
    And Richard Dawkins does not speak for all atheists. Richard Dawkins speaks for Richard Dawkins. Don't try to play the guilt by association game.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    And Richard Dawkins does not speak for all atheists. Richard Dawkins speaks for Richard Dawkins. Don't try to play the guilt by association game.
    It is pretty lame.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    No. I just don't ****ing care about your interpretation of what is and isn't moral. We have laws thank God. You and your book of fairy tales mean nothing to me.
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

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    You think that was unintentional?
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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And Richard Dawkins does not speak for all atheists. Richard Dawkins speaks for Richard Dawkins. Don't try to play the guilt by association game.
    Richard Dawkins makes a great point about moral relativity. I'm not saying he speaks for all atheists but if you truly believe in moral relativity it is impossible to condemn any action

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    comes out say he is gay and he gets the league minimum, still more then most make in 5 years.

    But I am done with the National Felons League. and not because of micheal sam
    Guess what? NFL players get arrested less often than adult men as a whole for everything other than weapons charges.

    What Do Arrests Data Really Say About NFL Players And Crime?

    Compared with their peers, these players were 11 percent less likely to get a DUI (8.3 per thousand compared to 9.4 for adult males), 23 percent less likely to get an assault charge (7.4 vs. 9.6), and 59 percent less likely to get a drug charge (4.2 vs. 10.4). The NFL's problem is the one Bob Costas identified: NFL players were still more than twice as likely as the average man to face a weapons charge (2.2 vs. 1.0).
    The "National Felons League" is a product of media sensationalism, not facts.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You think that was unintentional?
    most people don't capitalize God when mocking

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    Re: http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-michael-sam-nfl-draft-20140511-s

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is it? Most experts were saying before he came out that the chances he would get drafted were very slim. It's entirely likely he was drafted just so the Rams could say they were first in accepting gays.
    This is 100% supposition backed by absolutely nothing factual.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    most people don't capitalize God when mocking
    I'm not most people. That was for your consumption. Remember, you think I'm ignorant..willfully I believe. I was raised Catholic, went to catholic school, I was an altar boy whose sister was a Dominican. I'm still recovering.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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