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FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

Buck Ewer said:
...and I will have to remember you class hatred for poor people that is so strong you wish to see them put in prison ...just for being poor.
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I'm not the one who said I wanted anyone to go to prison. That was you.
 
bubbabgone said:
So waddya think ... will Holder be more focused on Bundy or following on Lerner's contempt citation.
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voyager1 said:
About time the FBI did something.
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Though I am no Bundy fan (Bundy is simply an occupier with short hair), I think it will be extremely difficult to press criminal charges, and especially federal criminal charges, against any of the militia members.

Even conspiracy based charges against leaders would be difficult as there were evidently few, if any established groups present and no designated leaders. Rather, there was just a cluster of people who came as individuals drawn by a common "cause" (leaderless resistance)

In short, there is simply not alot to investigate... .
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Keep thinking that. When or if it every goes down, please stay on the side line and learn to bow to your masters.
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Con puffery- can't dispute the 'militia' is as willing to get violent with the Oath Keepers as they are to push women and children to the front! yeah I should fear such punks! :roll:

New turn in the Militia... their 'commander' has left to run for sheriff in Strafford county.... can you say publicity stunt? :doh

Most of the others have drifted away, no staying power even though the CONs keep insisting, the Feds are coming back and out for blood!!!! :shock:

As far as the sidelines go, I suspect the sidelines will be packed with internet 'patriots', doubt I'll be able to find a spot.... :peace
 
apdst said:
So, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply?
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Using weapons as a threat to bar federal agents from enforcing the law is not covered, no.

apdst said:
That's not probable cause...lol!
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No, a court order is past the point of probable cause. This isn't a traffic stop. Due process had been carried out, and a judge ordered his punishment.
 
Moot said:
Bundy's thugs are threatening BLM employees with death threats. If that doesn't require an FBI investigation, then what does?


"....With anti-government sentiments roiling in the aftermath of Cliven Bundy’s Nevada standoff, government workers in western Utah are stripping BLM logos from their vehicles after two motorists brandished a gun and displayed a threatening sign at a federal wrangler who was driving Tuesday in Juab County.

The wrangler was driving a load of horses and burros north on Interstate 15 about 11 a.m. near Mills when a dark blue Dodge 1500 extended-cab pickup pulled up alongside the wrangler. The two occupants "told him he was No. 1 with that certain gesture," said Eric Reid, the wrangler’s supervisor at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management’s Fillmore Field Office.

The pickup fell back and the wrangler continued north. A few minutes later, the pickup reappeared, Reid said. The men, wearing hoods, held up a sign, apparently scrawled on a piece of paper, that read, "You need to die." One of the men pointed what appeared to be a Glock handgun at the wrangler.

The wrangler tried to make out a license plate number, but the plate had been covered with duct tape, Reid said....read...

BLM workers on alert after wrangler threatened with gun on I-15 | The Salt Lake Tribune
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What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.
 
Mr.Nick said:
What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.
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Holy **** he's literally supporting death threats in defense of the civil liberty to mooch off the public dime, are you sure you're not the progressive one here?

If armed men were stopping US citizens and demanding ID while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats, you really want to tell me you'd be thinking they're freedom fighters?
 
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Mr.Nick said:
What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.
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They've crossed the line from loonies to outright thugs. You're borderline yourself with that kind of talk.
 
Deuce said:
Using weapons as a threat to bar federal agents from enforcing the law is not covered, no.



No, a court order is past the point of probable cause. This isn't a traffic stop. Due process had been carried out, and a judge ordered his punishment.
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Were there shots fired? The right to bear arms doesnt exclude a protest; a sit in if you will

By that logic, you would have had Rosa Parks thrown in the slammer.
 
shrubnose said:
If those people would have fought for freedom and equal rights for the Black slaves and the women in the colonies also I'd have a lot more respect for them.
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Does slavery still exist? Do women have equal rights?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Times were different. But in the end this is a nation with many freedoms and my protections for those freedoms.
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That's the problem - they (progressives) want me to hate myself because of something some old dudes did.... The funny part is that these same clowns ignore history, blame the wrong people (as if it is even logical to blame me considering I'm 34) not to mention the majority of individuals lineage doesn't even go back to US slavery but are consistently bullied.

If progressives really want to get into history and talk **** then then maybe they can explain why my Sicilian skin is so ****ing dark - do progressives have any explanation for that?
 
Moot said:
They've crossed the line from loonies to outright thugs. You're borderline yourself with that kind of talk.
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You claim "borderline" because I dissent - and dissent is dangerous to the typical corn-fed citizen, because it challenges everything they commonly accept as reality.

****, in an ideal progressive society they'd either kill me, purge me, throw me in a gulag or a mental hospital for going against the grain.
 
Lutherf said:
But it's fine for federal agents to bring rifles to threaten you with violence even when you have not acted as a danger to the public in any way? Seems to be a bit of a double standard there, sport.
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of course it's fine.... just ask any "liberal".... they totally get off on the government bringing in the troops to initiate force....so long as the target has s different political lean
 
Deuce said:
Holy **** he's literally supporting death threats in defense of the civil liberty to mooch off the public dime, are you sure you're not the progressive one here?

If armed men were stopping US citizens and demanding ID while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats, you really want to tell me you'd be thinking they're freedom fighters?
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I'm not advocating anything, however I do realize that "revolts" are certainly possible and quite common.

How the hell do you think communism was established?

That chapter in history is one of the most ****ed up greedy ideas with absolute disregard for humanity or life in general.

**** the Red...
 
I love the fact that these militia guys are referred to as thugs, terrorists, etc... even though they have not done even .0000000001% of any violence that the violent OWS protesters did... the OWS protesters who were and still are championed by the left.

the smell of political fauxrage is overwhelming...
 
Mr.Nick said:
You claim "borderline" because I dissent - and dissent is dangerous to the typical corn-fed citizen, because it challenges everything they commonly accept as reality.

****, in an ideal progressive society they'd either kill me, purge me, throw me in a gulag or a mental hospital for going against the grain.
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I hope you don't really believe that.

Waving an American flag while breaking the law and threatening people doesn't seem to be convincing anyone except Bundy apologists.
 
Deuce said:
Using weapons as a threat to bar federal agents from enforcing the law is not covered, no.



No, a court order is past the point of probable cause. This isn't a traffic stop. Due process had been carried out, and a judge ordered his punishment.
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you will have a very difficult time proving a "threat" of the sort you say existed, actually existed.

but, alas, I don't doubt Dirty Harry and his lackeys will try very hard to bury these guys for the crime of not accepting the governments actions...it's what government is best at
 
Thrilla said:
I love the fact that these militia guys are referred to as thugs, terrorists, etc...
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That's because they are defying the government.
 
Thrilla said:
I love the fact that these militia guys are referred to as thugs, terrorists, etc... even though they have not done even .0000000001% of any violence that the violent OWS protesters did... the OWS protesters who were and still are championed by the left.

the smell of political fauxrage is overwhelming...
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Well we're smart and don't react without thinking first.

Oh, and we also care and don't want to see people hurt... Progressives don't give a **** about fodder - they thrive on it.
 
Dittohead not! said:
So, when we have people who confront law enforcement with guns in order to keep them from evicting a freeloader who refuses to pay for the use of federal lands, who offer to put their women on the front lines so that, should the shooting start, the agents will look bad for shooting them (remember: Taliban) then the FBI is likely to want to investigate those people.

Who saw that one coming?
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Hehehehe they should be glad I'm not president, a bunch of rednecks vs one, single, Abrams tank. Who wins out? Criminals should get locked up, if they refuse, bring down the hammer, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Serious joking aside, this is horrid. Who the hell puts women in the front line? Maybe it's because my ideals are deeply rooted in chivalry but I think what they're doing is barbaric, Hell lets get a huge team of snipers so as to specifically snipe the cowardly men and spare the women.
 
Moot said:
I hope you don't really believe that.

Waving an American flag while breaking the law and threatening people doesn't seem to be convincing anyone except Bundy apologists.
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I'm not threatening anyone.

If anything you're threatening me (and everyone) while supporting tyrannical laws and organizations that enforce such laws.
 
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