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FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

CRUE CAB said:
No, turning tail and leaving saved them. They were out manned, out numbered and out gunned.
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And, you complain that they showed up armed.

Hypocrisy, you are soaking in it....
 
Redress said:
Was the word "potential" too difficult for you?
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"Potential" what?

Do you understand the definition of "potential?"

Potential is a useless word considering you either do or you don't do.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Havent heard? Yea, we are at war in Afghanistan. We have lost a number of troops to "rag tag" cave dwellers and goat farmers that also beat back the Soviet Union in the 80s.
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So you claim terrorist tactics will be used by Militia on US soil against the US Government?
The FBI may want your name as well.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Havent heard? Yea, we are at war in Afghanistan. We have lost a number of troops to "rag tag" cave dwellers and goat farmers that also beat back the Soviet Union in the 80s.
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LMAO... the Aghanis have had CENTURIES of fighting experience, LIVE far more like hardened soldiers every day of their lives, and comparing these militia losers to real warriors is a pathetic CON game.
 
tres borrachos said:
You must detest all of the welfare recipients in this country then.
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apples to oranges.

Guess your ok then with going into a National Park, Forest, Public land and do some stip mining. No need to pay for the minerals that belong to all of us. No need for permits.:mrgreen:

Can I graze cattle on the public lands in the same area as Bundy? If not, why not?

Like I asked what other regs or laws can we ignore.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Again ... independent fire investigations showed that the fires started simultaneously all over the compound. The Davidians set themselves on fire rather than face certain prison time.
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You do realize I have video footage of FBI agents setting the place on fire?

Also, do you really think a government investigation would side against the government?

I will say this much tho - the government is pretty motivated and passionate about stomping out those they view as a threat to their ideal tyrannical totalitarian Orwellian society - or at least those that don't submit to the fascist wing of our government (FBI, DOJ, LEO's, NSA etc).
 
mike2810 said:
apples to oranges.

Guess your ok then with going into a National Park, Forest, Public land and do some stip mining. No need to pay for the minerals that belong to all of us. No need for permits.:mrgreen:

Can I graze cattle on the public lands in the same area as Bundy? If not, why not?

Like I asked what other regs or laws can we ignore.
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Comparing "welfare" recipients is "apples to oranges"? Nice deflection.

Go ahead and graze your cattle on the same land as Bundy as far as I'm concerned. Can you take pictures while you're at it? How many head of cattle do you have?
 
tres borrachos said:
Did I miss your posts saying that ALL people who collect welfare should be put in prison? Which posts were they?
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So you do believe that the condition of being poor is worthy of prison time ? ...and you are upset with me that I didn't agree with you?
Expound on this idea so we better get to know what you are...
 
notquiteright said:
LMAO... the Aghanis have had CENTURIES of fighting experience, LIVE far more like hardened soldiers every day of their lives, and comparing these militia losers to real warriors is a pathetic CON game.
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May want to look into who is making up many of the militias today. This aint a bunch of loser like back in the 80s. Many of these guys are current and former US military.
And they are not just a bunch of rednecks, as you say, with hunting rifles. Short of full auto most of them have the same personal weapons as most GIs.
So if you want a fight, I think it can be made to happen with one shot.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You do realize I have video footage of FBI agents setting the place on fire?

Also, do you really think a government investigation would side against the government?

I will say this much tho - the government is pretty motivated and passionate about stomping out those they view as a threat to their ideal tyrannical totalitarian Orwellian society - or at least those that don't submit to the fascist wing of our government (FBI, DOJ, LEO's, NSA etc).
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Koresh was F**king his own children and building automatic weapons, as any true man of god might do.
You would defend that piece of filth?
 
Buck Ewer said:
So you do believe that the condition of being poor is worthy of prison time ? ...and you are upset with me that I didn't agree with you?
Expound on this idea so we better get to know what you are...
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Don't change the subject. You want hard working Americans shot on sight out at the Bundy ranch. Let it happen. The US will never be the same. He will get his "fundamental changes" he is dying for.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Koresh was F**king his own children and building automatic weapons, as any true man of god might do.
You would defend that piece of filth?
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This is not about Koresh, no one is defending him. Its about another idiot move by the government.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I bet you don't have a problem with people leaching off the government for free phones, food stamps and welfare money for an unlimited period of time.

Furthermore if you knew your history you would know that during the western migration the government actually gave land to those willing to go west and establish the west and it appears that Bundy's family took the government up on that so therefor it's his land - not the governments.

Furthermore, even if you want to insist it is government property - who gives a **** if cows are eating grass? It's not exactly like the government is using the land - not that they could because it doesn't even belong to them.
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You would loose the bet. Mr. Nick. So care to pay up. It is also apples to oranges your comparing the use of public land vs. social programs.

yes, one could homestead on 160 acres. So who does the federal land belong to?

It is clear you have little understanding of federal or State land and how they came about. Your statements also demonstrate you know very little of land management policies on federal lands.

So answer the second part of my post.
What other regs/laws can someone ignore?
 
Buck Ewer said:
So you claim terrorist tactics will be used by Militia on US soil against the US Government?
The FBI may want your name as well.
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Apparently you don't understand the definition of "terrorism."

Patriots would never commit a terrorist act.....

Us patriots aren't the ones looking for trouble - our government is looking for trouble, and when they confront us we stand up for our rights and it's the governments actions that determine how far a situation could escalate...

However, terrorism contradicts everything we believe..

Honestly - we just want to be left the **** alone and live free and embrace freedom and promote freedom, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, however our government finds that idea contradictory to their plan and wants us all to join their social cult and they use force and murder to do it.

The liberty movement aren't the terrorists - our government are the terrorists, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that Ruby Ridge and Waco are perfect examples of our government killing people because they don't conform to their progressive standards.
 
tres borrachos said:
Comparing "welfare" recipients is "apples to oranges"? Nice deflection.

Go ahead and graze your cattle on the same land as Bundy as far as I'm concerned. Can you take pictures while you're at it? How many head of cattle do you have?
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Thanks for your permission to graze cattle. I will let Bundy know its ok be you.

The OP is not about welfare programs. Start a thread if you want to discuss them. If you didn't understand from my statements, I believe we need welfare reform. The point is it is a poor comparison of the use of land vs. free cell phones (never should have happened).

Do you know or understand land management principles? Who do you think owns the land outside the 160 acres Bundy homestead?
 
mike2810 said:
Thanks for your permission to graze cattle. I will let Bundy know its ok be you.

The OP is not about welfare programs. Start a thread if you want to discuss them. If you didn't understand from my statements, I believe we need welfare reform. The point is it is a poor comparison of the use of land vs. free cell phones (never should have happened).

Do you know or understand land management principles? Who do you think owns the land outside the 160 acres Bundy homestead?
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I suppose we could end this whole debate right now with just stating that this situation is all about welfare for cattle. lol

I know progs are anti-Bundy but are they anti-cattle?

I wonder how PETA feels about this? denying food to poor cattle lol. Considering the majority of PETA members are progressives I'm sure they're extremely confused on which position to take...
 
CRUE CAB said:
May want to look into who is making up many of the militias today. This aint a bunch of loser like back in the 80s. Many of these guys are current and former US military.
And they are not just a bunch of rednecks, as you say, with hunting rifles. Short of full auto most of them have the same personal weapons as most GIs.
So if you want a fight, I think it can be made to happen with one shot.
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...and of course you will be there, armed and ready to die, so that some freeloading millionaire can graze his cattle for free...right?
 
Buck Ewer said:
...and of course you will be there, armed and ready to die, so that some freeloading millionaire can graze his cattle for free...right?
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Oh, this is about ME? How about you? You just going to bow and cower when martial law and gun confiscation starts?
 
Buck Ewer said:
...and of course you will be there, armed and ready to die, so that some freeloading millionaire can graze his cattle for free...right?
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Hey now, someday you might be the guy declaring "the federal government does not exist" so that you can have an instant army of hillfolk. Let's not totally discount the value of that.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Oh, this is about ME? How about you? You just going to bow and cower when martial law and gun confiscation starts?
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Chicken Little
 
mike2810 said:
You would loose the bet. Mr. Nick. So care to pay up. It is also apples to oranges your comparing the use of public land vs. social programs.

yes, one could homestead on 160 acres. So who does the federal land belong to?

It is clear you have little understanding of federal or State land and how they came about. Your statements also demonstrate you know very little of land management policies on federal lands.

So answer the second part of my post.
What other regs/laws can someone ignore?
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I didn't nor would I lose the bet because you would be the first in line to defend welfare - you just rationalize the concept of welfare differently.

Furthermore it's not "public land" - the federal government claims they own it but considering those in government who claim this poppycock are progressives they're without a doubt ignorant to history - that or just ignore it.

Western Expansion (1860

^^Read, learn, acknowledge and embrace..

The truth is that the democrats in government attempting to use their Nazi storm troopers to force Bundy out of his land are ignorant people.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Is that going to be your new screen name?
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I'm not the one screaming about the end of the world. Do you have a point that's not based in self indulgent fantasy?
 
Mr.Nick said:
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Us patriots aren't the ones looking for trouble - our government is looking for trouble, and when they confront us we stand up for our rights and it's the governments actions that determine how far a situation could escalate...

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I will ask you as well...... you will be there, armed and ready to die, so that some freeloading millionaire can graze his cattle for free...right?
 
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