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Thread: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Again ... independent fire investigations showed that the fires started simultaneously all over the compound. The Davidians set themselves on fire rather than face certain prison time.
    You do realize I have video footage of FBI agents setting the place on fire?

    Also, do you really think a government investigation would side against the government?

    I will say this much tho - the government is pretty motivated and passionate about stomping out those they view as a threat to their ideal tyrannical totalitarian Orwellian society - or at least those that don't submit to the fascist wing of our government (FBI, DOJ, LEO's, NSA etc).

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    apples to oranges.

    Guess your ok then with going into a National Park, Forest, Public land and do some stip mining. No need to pay for the minerals that belong to all of us. No need for permits.

    Can I graze cattle on the public lands in the same area as Bundy? If not, why not?

    Like I asked what other regs or laws can we ignore.
    Comparing "welfare" recipients is "apples to oranges"? Nice deflection.

    Go ahead and graze your cattle on the same land as Bundy as far as I'm concerned. Can you take pictures while you're at it? How many head of cattle do you have?

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Did I miss your posts saying that ALL people who collect welfare should be put in prison? Which posts were they?
    So you do believe that the condition of being poor is worthy of prison time ? ...and you are upset with me that I didn't agree with you?
    Expound on this idea so we better get to know what you are...

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    LMAO... the Aghanis have had CENTURIES of fighting experience, LIVE far more like hardened soldiers every day of their lives, and comparing these militia losers to real warriors is a pathetic CON game.
    May want to look into who is making up many of the militias today. This aint a bunch of loser like back in the 80s. Many of these guys are current and former US military.
    And they are not just a bunch of rednecks, as you say, with hunting rifles. Short of full auto most of them have the same personal weapons as most GIs.
    So if you want a fight, I think it can be made to happen with one shot.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize I have video footage of FBI agents setting the place on fire?

    Also, do you really think a government investigation would side against the government?

    I will say this much tho - the government is pretty motivated and passionate about stomping out those they view as a threat to their ideal tyrannical totalitarian Orwellian society - or at least those that don't submit to the fascist wing of our government (FBI, DOJ, LEO's, NSA etc).
    Koresh was F**king his own children and building automatic weapons, as any true man of god might do.
    You would defend that piece of filth?

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you do believe that the condition of being poor is worthy of prison time ? ...and you are upset with me that I didn't agree with you?
    Expound on this idea so we better get to know what you are...
    Don't change the subject. You want hard working Americans shot on sight out at the Bundy ranch. Let it happen. The US will never be the same. He will get his "fundamental changes" he is dying for.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Koresh was F**king his own children and building automatic weapons, as any true man of god might do.
    You would defend that piece of filth?
    This is not about Koresh, no one is defending him. Its about another idiot move by the government.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I bet you don't have a problem with people leaching off the government for free phones, food stamps and welfare money for an unlimited period of time.

    Furthermore if you knew your history you would know that during the western migration the government actually gave land to those willing to go west and establish the west and it appears that Bundy's family took the government up on that so therefor it's his land - not the governments.

    Furthermore, even if you want to insist it is government property - who gives a **** if cows are eating grass? It's not exactly like the government is using the land - not that they could because it doesn't even belong to them.
    You would loose the bet. Mr. Nick. So care to pay up. It is also apples to oranges your comparing the use of public land vs. social programs.

    yes, one could homestead on 160 acres. So who does the federal land belong to?

    It is clear you have little understanding of federal or State land and how they came about. Your statements also demonstrate you know very little of land management policies on federal lands.

    So answer the second part of my post.
    What other regs/laws can someone ignore?

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you claim terrorist tactics will be used by Militia on US soil against the US Government?
    The FBI may want your name as well.
    Apparently you don't understand the definition of "terrorism."

    Patriots would never commit a terrorist act.....

    Us patriots aren't the ones looking for trouble - our government is looking for trouble, and when they confront us we stand up for our rights and it's the governments actions that determine how far a situation could escalate...

    However, terrorism contradicts everything we believe..

    Honestly - we just want to be left the **** alone and live free and embrace freedom and promote freedom, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, however our government finds that idea contradictory to their plan and wants us all to join their social cult and they use force and murder to do it.

    The liberty movement aren't the terrorists - our government are the terrorists, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that Ruby Ridge and Waco are perfect examples of our government killing people because they don't conform to their progressive standards.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Comparing "welfare" recipients is "apples to oranges"? Nice deflection.

    Go ahead and graze your cattle on the same land as Bundy as far as I'm concerned. Can you take pictures while you're at it? How many head of cattle do you have?
    Thanks for your permission to graze cattle. I will let Bundy know its ok be you.

    The OP is not about welfare programs. Start a thread if you want to discuss them. If you didn't understand from my statements, I believe we need welfare reform. The point is it is a poor comparison of the use of land vs. free cell phones (never should have happened).

    Do you know or understand land management principles? Who do you think owns the land outside the 160 acres Bundy homestead?

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