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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't know of many right wingers who think we should en masse decline paying back our contractual debts.
    I am beginning to suspect that many rigth wingers are in favor of free loading- so long as the free loaders are right wing.

    For example:

    - Leftist occupiers who dont want to repay their contractual debts (tuition).... . Bad, very bad.

    -Right wing occupiers who refuse to sign a contract, then go on to sieze public recesources (pasturage).... . Good guys- so long as they are right wingers.

    As a side note, the Mexicans have been dealing with hundreds of thousands of leftist "Bundys" at the University of Mexico City for generations. Its been occupied by professional students who refuse to sign tuition contracts, then go on to sieze the recesources anyways.

    If one either tries to force them to sign a contract, or tries evicts them, they threaten violence. There have been riots, and some of the leftists have access to weapons. Oh yeah, the Mexican leftist Bundys also have the tacit support of marxist politicians who egg them on. Left wing or right wing, "Bundys" tend to bankrupt nations.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am beginning to suspect that many rigth wingers are in favor of free loading- so long as the free loaders are right wing.

    For example:

    - Leftist occupiers who dont want to repay their contractual debts (tuition).... . Bad, very bad.

    -Right wing occupiers who refuse to sign a contract, then go on to sieze public recesources (pasturage).... . Good guys- so long as they use right wing talking points.

    As a side note, the Mexicans have been dealing with hundreds of thousands of leftist "Bundys" at the University of Mexico City. Its been occupied for generations by professional students who refuse to sign tuition contracts, then go on to sieze the recesources anyways.

    If one either tries to force them to sign a contract, or evicts them, they threaten violence. There have been riots, and some of the leftists have access to weapons. Oh yeah, the Mexican leftist Bundys also have the tacit support of marxist politicians who egg them on. Left wing or right wing, "Bundys" tend to bankrupt nations.
    I think you're more interested in Bundy than I am.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't know how it works at UT-Arlington, but at other institutions, attendance is checked at least for the first few weeks, and if a student isn't on the roster, he/she can't remain in class. If the student refused to leave, the campus cops would haul him off. And students are dropped for non-payment.
    Yes, that is how it needs to work. If people started going "Bundy" (refuse to sign a contract, and then sieze the receources), the system would collapse.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think you're more interested in Bundy than I am.
    I am not interested in his as an individual. I am very interested in him as a concept. We just cant afford to have alot of Bundys refusing to sign contracts for public recesources and then siezing them.

    As I mentioned earlier, the Mexicans now have about a hundred thousand Bundy student in Mexico City:
    -wont sign a contract for use of the public recesources
    -sieze the recesource anyways
    -Threaten violence if told "no".
    -get encouraged by some politicians (in this case, leftists ones).
    Last edited by Cryptic; 06-29-14 at 01:05 PM.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, here it comes....Round 2.

    And in true authoritarian style, a full propaganda effort will accompany the suppression of any possible uprising to ensure that the sheep soaking up the reports will know who "the bad guy" is supposed to be....

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am not interested in his as an individual. I am very interested in him as a concept. We just cant afford to have alot of Bundys refusing to sign contracts for public recesources and then siezing them.

    As I mentioned earlier, the Mexicans now have about a hundred thousand Bundy student in Mexico City:
    -wont sign a contract for use of the public recesources
    -sieze the recesource anyways
    -Threaten violence if told "no".
    -get encouraged by some politicians (in this case, leftists ones).
    I'd be more interested in the Bundy concept if I thought it was widescale, causing some major issues for our country, and was going to lead to something that will negatively impact me.

    Mexican stories are cool, but they're also irrelevant. The US government needs to address Bundy or not address him. The issue is overdiscussed.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'd be more interested in the Bundy concept if I thought it was widescale, causing some major issues for our country, and was going to lead to something that will negatively impact me.

    Mexican stories are cool, but they're also irrelevant. The US government needs to address Bundy or not address him. The issue is overdiscussed.
    I agree, you have some good points about the small scale of Bundy, and his probably over discussed as he is small scale. The Mexican stories are not completely irrelevent. They are based on a very valid concept- one cannot afford too many left wing or right wing Bundys.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No clue what this means, or where you got that from my posts.
    Where you care if people repay their school loans but don't care if someone doesn't pay to use federal resources to make a moving.
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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Where you care if people repay their school loans but don't care if someone doesn't pay to use federal resources to make a moving.
    Repaying your student loans is fulfilling a contractual obligation. It has nothing to do with pulling your weight.

    "Make a moving...?"

    By the way, I also don't lose sleep when people camp in the White Mountains of NH and don't slip the fee for their campsite in the box when they pull in, and it probably happens all the time. Maybe you have more time on your hands than I do to worry about things like this.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Repaying your student loans is fulfilling a contractual obligation. It has nothing to do with pulling your weight.

    "Make a moving...?"

    By the way, I also don't lose sleep when people camp in the White Mountains of NH and don't slip the fee for their campsite in the box when they pull in, and it probably happens all the time. Maybe you have more time on your hands than I do to worry about things like this.
    I think its unfortunate that armed citizens showed up to support Bundy, who likely is in the wrong, such actions would have far better served justice had folks showed up with such support in Waco and Ruby Ridge.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think its unfortunate that armed citizens showed up to support Bundy, who likely is in the wrong, such actions would have far better served justice had folks showed up with such support in Waco and Ruby Ridge.
    For some people, any port in a storm will do.

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