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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Please consider the following "logic":

    -The career welfare fraudster does not cost me any money personally.
    - Had she been kicked off of welfare, would my taxes have been reduced a great deal?

    - Ergo, society should tolerate her theft of public recesources- right?

    The only difference between Bundy and the welfare fraudsters is that Bundy is right wing (most welfare fraudsters drift left) and that Budy has managed to summon some armed, but blind ideaological followers. The welfare fraudsters ahve not been able to do that since the Black Panthers collapsed.

    Please.... dont become one of Bundy's blind followers.
    Huh? Who is following Bundy?

    I understand your "welfare fraudster" point, but I'm going to guess there are many more welfare recipients in this country than people who don't pay a fee to graze their cattle.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Huh? Who is following Bundy?

    I understand your "welfare fraudster" point, but I'm going to guess there are many more welfare recipients in this country than people who don't pay a fee to graze their cattle.
    there's like 1 cattle rancher that is "costing" taxpayers 1 million bucks( him not paying doesn't exactly mean it's costing us anything, but that's for another story) .. .and all of a sudden lefties are all about decrying " leeching" off of taxpayers....something they generally champion.
    it's all so very odd.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Huh? Who is following Bundy?

    I understand your "welfare fraudster" point, but I'm going to guess there are many more welfare recipients in this country than people who don't pay a fee to graze their cattle.
    I didn't explore 60 pages to see, but do you know if this thread addressed how it came to be that lands that family's like Bundy's grazed their animals on historically came into the possession of the Federal government to begin with?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I didn't explore 60 pages to see, but do you know if this thread addressed how it came to be that lands that family's like Bundy's grazed their animals on historically came into the possession of the Federal government to begin with?
    No clue. I was surprised to see my post quoted this morning as I made that post a while ago. Haven't had any interest in the Bundy story lately.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Huh? Who is following Bundy?

    I understand your "welfare fraudster" point, but I'm going to guess there are many more welfare recipients in this country than people who don't pay a fee to graze their cattle.
    Ok, I proably should have used the words "support" instead of "follow" - follow just had a bigger impact.

    Bundy is also a welfare fraudster- he just hides behind a certain amount of respectibility as a rancher.

    The core concept is that if one chooses to use public recesources, then one must pay the tax payers (the owners) for them. It does not matter whether one is a leftist "occupier" with student loans, or a right wing rancher with grazing fees.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Ok, I proably should have used the words "support" instead of "follow" - follow just had a bigger impact.

    Bundy is also a welfare fraudster- he just hides behind a certain amount of respectibility as a rancher.

    The core concept is that if one chooses to use public recesources, then one must pay the tax payers (the owners) for them. It does not matter whether one is a leftist "occupier" with student loans, or a right wing rancher with grazing fees.
    I'm not a Bundy supporter either. I have no opinion one way or another on the grazing issue because I don't really care if he pays his fees or not.

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I didn't explore 60 pages to see, but do you know if this thread addressed how it came to be that lands that family's like Bundy's grazed their animals on historically came into the possession of the Federal government to begin with?
    Yes, and it turns out that the land has always been the property of the federal govt which bought it from Mexico.
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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not a Bundy supporter either. I have no opinion one way or another on the grazing issue because I don't really care if he pays his fees or not.
    Do you care if the "Occupiers" re-pay their student loans?

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, and it turns out that the land has always been the property of the federal govt which bought it from Mexico.
    Do you have a link to that. I thought the US annexed AZ, CA, NM, etc. after trumped up charges by president Polk that led to the Mexican American war??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Do you care if the "Occupiers" re-pay their student loans?
    Absolutely, but what does that have to do with Bundy?

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