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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Even though this is a bit off the topic, what a completely ignorant statement. If you think that the problem with education in this country is a shortage of money, then you really need to get educated. We spend more money per student than anyone in the world. Watch "The Cartel" before you make such comments. Don't want to pay??? We are paying through the nose.
    What you need to realize is that while we spend more money per student than any other nation, our teachers are paid only somewhat above average for teachers in the OECD. So where does all the other funding go, that forces us to pay so much more than other nations? THAT, sir, is the question you should be asking yourself.

    For instance, what other nations provide football fields and weight rooms and equipment for almost every school? And then there's fully-furnished gymnasiums. And don't forget the maintenance - all that is very, very expensive.

    What other nations use full-sized (and hideously-expensive) school buses for almost every route?

    What other nations require each and every public (but NOT private) school to take in every special-needs kids, like the medically-fragile Foster kids I've had for nearly 15 years now? When they do so, they also have to provide nurses, caregivers, equipment, special classrooms...you name it.

    A lot of other nations require children to bring their own meals so they don't have to pay for cafeteria and staff.

    And then there's one thing that America's schools are now having to pay to provide that NO other nation needs to: armed security guards...and sometimes even metal detectors. Of course that wouldn't have anything to do with the Right's fetish with guns-everywhere-all-the-time...of course not!

    In other words, guy, if you want your schools to have all that, then you have to PAY for it. But if you aren't willing to pay for it, then we wind up with situations like Texas does where about 41% of schoolteachers have to take second jobs in order to make ends meet...which means that instead of staying after school to help kids who are struggling in class, much less working on lesson plans and grading tests and homework, they're rushing to get to their second jobs.

    If you want first-class schools with all the bells and whistles I listed above, then you have to PAY for it. Otherwise, you're going to get sucky schools.
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What does that have to do with anything?



    Oh, really? Okay, well I'll just call the FBI and tell them to stop investigating, Mr.Nick from debatepolitics.com said there were no threats. If there weren't any threats, what's the problem with the investigation?



    I don't care.


    Mr.Nick I don't care about you.



    Mr.Nick: I don't care.
    Yeah you're a ****ing hatemonger authoritarian...

    You're doing nothing more than proving my points...

    Do you really believe that people should just submit to the FBI??

    The only threat here is that good people are telling the feds to go **** off.

    The FBI resembles a bunch of SS Nazi's that have total contempt of individual liberties...

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah you're a ****ing hatemonger authoritarian...

    You're doing nothing more than proving my points...

    Do you really believe that people should just submit to the FBI??

    The only threat here is that good people are telling the feds to go **** off.

    The FBI resembles a bunch of SS Nazi's that have total contempt of individual liberties...
    hahaha

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, at worst we have a 'he said, she said' situation.
    And the FBI shouldn't investigate whether a crime has been committed until after there is proof that a crime has been committed.
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah you're a ****ing hatemonger authoritarian...

    You're doing nothing more than proving my points...

    Do you really believe that people should just submit to the FBI??

    The only threat here is that good people are telling the feds to go **** off.

    The FBI resembles a bunch of SS Nazi's that have total contempt of individual liberties...
    Except when the people who are telling the fed to "**** off" are doing so while pointing guns at the Feds, that is called threatening violence againist government agents. That my friend is a crime.
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    hahaha
    Well how am I wrong?

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What products does government make?
    You didn't really read my reply, did you?

    I don't know if you've noticed, but most businesses in America don't make anything at all. America's switched over to a service-oriented economy.

    AGAIN, can you name a government agency that doesn't spend a very healthy chunk of its funding on buying stuff from corporations? No, you can't.

    In fact, guy, do you realize that - except for funds paid directly to personnel and beneficiaries (who then spend their money on the local economy) and for state and local fees and taxes - pretty much ALL of our domestic budget is paid to private business.

    That's hundreds of billions of dollars being paid to corporations, guy...so don't tell me that the waste, fraud, and abuse in corporations doesn't directly affect you, the taxpayer - because it sure as heck does.
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You have it backwards. It's more like the DMV showing up at your house in SWAT gear when you failed to renew your tags. You probably think that is appropriate too.
    The people with SWAT gear were the Bundy supporters
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You didn't really read my reply, did you? I don't know if you've noticed, but most businesses in America don't make anything at all. America's switched over to a service-oriented economy. AGAIN, can you name a government agency that doesn't spend a very healthy chunk of its funding on buying stuff from corporations? No, you can't.
    If US Corporations have stopped making 'stuff', what is the government buying from them?
    In fact, guy, do you realize that - except for funds paid directly to personnel and beneficiaries (who then spend their money on the local economy) and for state and local fees and taxes - pretty much ALL of our domestic budget is paid to private business.
    Excluding cases of crony capitalism within this administration, do you have links to any of this?
    That's hundreds of billions of dollars being paid to corporations, guy...so don't tell me that the waste, fraud, and abuse in corporations doesn't directly affect you, the taxpayer - because it sure as heck does.
    So the government is using taxpayer money to engage in "waste, fraud, and abuse"? I have little trust in the government either but do you have links to these potential crimes?

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