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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is it the left who thinks that guys like Bundy should have to pay for grazing rights?

    If that's so, then it must be the conservatives who think the government should give away use of the land for free.
    It's the ****ing authoritarians.... Left or right doesn't matter.

    If I wasn't as evil as they were I would advocate them being lit on fire...

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I to this date have seen NOTHING proving the false claim of checkpoints being instituted....This is more propaganda.
    Okay, so I looked it up. To give you your due, there does not seem to be checkpoints...BUT there seems to be an idea among militia that they can pull over people "if they have reasonable cause". That, and the bomb threats, y'know....

    According to a report from KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, the militiamen have also threatened people who live in the nearby town of Mesquite, and businesses there claim they have lost over $100,000 because of their presence.

    The station reported that a local hotel was forced to evacuate all of its clients one evening following a bomb threat. The hotel also received at least nine threatening calls after it permitted Bureau of Land Management rangers to stay there. The callers demanded the BLM rangers be kicked out or the hotel “would not be standing in the morning.”

    One hotel worker told the news crew he had been told by an anonymous militia member that he would be “dragged out in the parking lot and shot”.

    News crews were unable to find any armed checkpoints when they went out searching for them. A militia group spokesman named Ryan Payne denied to KVVU-TV that they were conducting such checks.

    “We are not to set up checkpoints, we are not to pull over civilians, without, you know, reasonable cause,” Payne said. Of course, militiamen have no legal right to pull anyone over – with or without reasonable cause.


    I don't know about you, but I've seen enough crazies in this life to know these people aren't playing with a full deck of cards, they're a few beers short of a six-pack, and seriously need windows installed in their navels so they can see where they're going.
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is it the left who thinks that guys like Bundy should have to pay for grazing rights?

    If that's so, then it must be the conservatives who think the government should give away use of the land for free.
    Just like they want the schools to educate the kids better but don't want to pay the taxes for it....
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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I love the fact that these militia guys are referred to as thugs, terrorists, etc... even though they have not done even .0000000001% of any violence that the violent OWS protesters did... the OWS protesters who were and still are championed by the left.

    the smell of political fauxrage is overwhelming...
    That and the fact that these guys are out in the middle of nowhere and not clogging up city streets.

    All the government has to do is ignore all of this, let the situation calm down, and then act in a year or so with paperwork. The government overreaction to this in order to show who's boss is creating a truly dangerous situation. Leftists seem to like war only if its directed against their own people.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Just like they want the schools to educate the kids better but don't want to pay the taxes for it....
    Did they teach you that in order to have a better education you need to spend still more money per student? If money was the answer Americans would be the best educated people in the world.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is it the left who thinks that guys like Bundy should have to pay for grazing rights?

    If that's so, then it must be the conservatives who think the government should give away use of the land for free.
    Are those the only available options? Either allow him free use of the land or respond with the militia and SWAT teams?

    If it came to one or the other, though there are obviously other solutions, I'd say let the cattle graze.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I find it pathetic for a rancher to leach off of all Americans for 20+ years by failing to pay grazing fees.

    So what other regulations and laws can someone ignore?
    It's worse that the Federal Government is using the land as bribes to enrich politicians, but you don't seem worried about that.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    There's only been a handful of pictures of one guy - the same guy, from different angles - and in none of them can you see a federal officer on the receiving end of the gun. None.
    In act I'd be suspicious of any photos or sound bites, given the government's credibility record.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's worse that the Federal Government is using the land as bribes to enrich politicians, but you don't seem worried about that.
    please explain the mechanism on how this occurs.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Just like they want the schools to educate the kids better but don't want to pay the taxes for it....
    I don't have a problem paying taxes, however I insist that the government manage that money a hell-of-a-lot better than they do.

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