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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply?
    Using weapons as a threat to bar federal agents from enforcing the law is not covered, no.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not probable cause...lol!
    No, a court order is past the point of probable cause. This isn't a traffic stop. Due process had been carried out, and a judge ordered his punishment.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Bundy's thugs are threatening BLM employees with death threats. If that doesn't require an FBI investigation, then what does?


    "....With anti-government sentiments roiling in the aftermath of Cliven Bundy’s Nevada standoff, government workers in western Utah are stripping BLM logos from their vehicles after two motorists brandished a gun and displayed a threatening sign at a federal wrangler who was driving Tuesday in Juab County.

    The wrangler was driving a load of horses and burros north on Interstate 15 about 11 a.m. near Mills when a dark blue Dodge 1500 extended-cab pickup pulled up alongside the wrangler. The two occupants "told him he was No. 1 with that certain gesture," said Eric Reid, the wrangler’s supervisor at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management’s Fillmore Field Office.

    The pickup fell back and the wrangler continued north. A few minutes later, the pickup reappeared, Reid said. The men, wearing hoods, held up a sign, apparently scrawled on a piece of paper, that read, "You need to die." One of the men pointed what appeared to be a Glock handgun at the wrangler.

    The wrangler tried to make out a license plate number, but the plate had been covered with duct tape, Reid said....read...

    BLM workers on alert after wrangler threatened with gun on I-15 | The Salt Lake Tribune
    What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

    I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

    Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

    What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

    Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

    I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

    Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

    What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

    Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.
    Holy **** he's literally supporting death threats in defense of the civil liberty to mooch off the public dime, are you sure you're not the progressive one here?

    If armed men were stopping US citizens and demanding ID while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats, you really want to tell me you'd be thinking they're freedom fighters?
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What the hell do you expect? peaceful resistance?

    I know in progressiveland brainwashing is the optimal way to control a society and that violence is only acceptable if it is for a progressive cause....

    Painting these individuals as lunatics is insane.

    What do you expect them to do - or better yet how do you believe they should react?

    Sometimes it takes a gun and a concerned individual to present a message - and the only time that is OK is when the message is backed by or in support of civil liberties.
    They've crossed the line from loonies to outright thugs. You're borderline yourself with that kind of talk.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Using weapons as a threat to bar federal agents from enforcing the law is not covered, no.



    No, a court order is past the point of probable cause. This isn't a traffic stop. Due process had been carried out, and a judge ordered his punishment.
    Were there shots fired? The right to bear arms doesnt exclude a protest; a sit in if you will

    By that logic, you would have had Rosa Parks thrown in the slammer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If those people would have fought for freedom and equal rights for the Black slaves and the women in the colonies also I'd have a lot more respect for them.
    Does slavery still exist? Do women have equal rights?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Times were different. But in the end this is a nation with many freedoms and my protections for those freedoms.
    That's the problem - they (progressives) want me to hate myself because of something some old dudes did.... The funny part is that these same clowns ignore history, blame the wrong people (as if it is even logical to blame me considering I'm 34) not to mention the majority of individuals lineage doesn't even go back to US slavery but are consistently bullied.

    If progressives really want to get into history and talk **** then then maybe they can explain why my Sicilian skin is so ****ing dark - do progressives have any explanation for that?

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    They've crossed the line from loonies to outright thugs. You're borderline yourself with that kind of talk.
    You claim "borderline" because I dissent - and dissent is dangerous to the typical corn-fed citizen, because it challenges everything they commonly accept as reality.

    ****, in an ideal progressive society they'd either kill me, purge me, throw me in a gulag or a mental hospital for going against the grain.

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    But it's fine for federal agents to bring rifles to threaten you with violence even when you have not acted as a danger to the public in any way? Seems to be a bit of a double standard there, sport.
    of course it's fine.... just ask any "liberal".... they totally get off on the government bringing in the troops to initiate force....so long as the target has s different political lean

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    re: FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Holy **** he's literally supporting death threats in defense of the civil liberty to mooch off the public dime, are you sure you're not the progressive one here?

    If armed men were stopping US citizens and demanding ID while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats, you really want to tell me you'd be thinking they're freedom fighters?
    I'm not advocating anything, however I do realize that "revolts" are certainly possible and quite common.

    How the hell do you think communism was established?

    That chapter in history is one of the most ****ed up greedy ideas with absolute disregard for humanity or life in general.

    **** the Red...

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