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FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

beefheart said:
Was it a conspiracy that someone got a picture of your hillbilly heroes aiming a weapon at the BLM?
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Oh snap beefheart! the guy was aiming at his own people! especially the women and children in that arroyo. :roll:
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yeah you're a ****ing hatemonger authoritarian...

You're doing nothing more than proving my points...

Do you really believe that people should just submit to the FBI??

The only threat here is that good people are telling the feds to go **** off.

The FBI resembles a bunch of SS Nazi's that have total contempt of individual liberties...
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What? So you're against the FBI investigating potential crimes?
 
AJiveMan said:
Where is the FEMA camp for political dissidents? Since you obviously know of such things.
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"THE FEMA camp?"

There are hundreds.

There is a camp in Crystal Lake Illinois, which is a stones throw away from me geographically speaking.

I know what I have been posting seems outrageous - but it is the truth.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
What? So you're against the FBI investigating potential crimes?
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I'm against the FBI ****ing with people....

The FBI isn't investigating a crime - they're flexing their muscles.

Since you insist a crime has taken place, what crime is it? contempt of government???
 
AJiveMan said:
Where is the FEMA camp for political dissidents?
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Mr.Nick said:
"THE FEMA camp?"

There are hundreds.

There is a camp in Crystal Lake Illinois, which is a stones throw away from me geographically speaking.

I know what I have been posting seems outrageous - but it is the truth.
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For political dissidents?

Google search for "FEMA camp in Crystal Lake Illinois:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fem...7.13270j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

none, zero, notta,

Next please....
 
Mr.Nick said:
I'm against the FBI ****ing with people....

The FBI isn't investigating a crime - they're flexing their muscles.

Since you insist a crime has taken place, what crime is it? contempt of government???
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When did I insist a crime took place?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
You didn't really read my reply, did you?

I don't know if you've noticed, but most businesses in America don't make anything at all. America's switched over to a service-oriented economy.

AGAIN, can you name a government agency that doesn't spend a very healthy chunk of its funding on buying stuff from corporations? No, you can't.

In fact, guy, do you realize that - except for funds paid directly to personnel and beneficiaries (who then spend their money on the local economy) and for state and local fees and taxes - pretty much ALL of our domestic budget is paid to private business.

That's hundreds of billions of dollars being paid to corporations, guy...so don't tell me that the waste, fraud, and abuse in corporations doesn't directly affect you, the taxpayer - because it sure as heck does.
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So then where's the accountability in government for this overspending? Or are they helpless to resist the big evil corporations? Let me ask, where do you think we would be without corporations?
 
AJiveMan said:
For political dissidents?

Google search for "FEMA camp in Crystal Lake Illinois:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fem...7.13270j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

none, zero, notta,

Next please....
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Like they would tell you where the ****ing camp is - or would even acknowledge they exist..

Guess what "Area 51" didn't exist until about a decade ago, yet it was well documented for 40-years.

I've personally investigated these facilities and the government calls them "residential housing facilities" - whatever the **** that means.

I know the difference between a prison camp and a housing project.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Like they would tell you where the ****ing camp is - or would even acknowledge they exist..

Guess what "Area 51" didn't exist until about a decade ago, yet it was well documented for 40-years.

I've personally investigated these facilities and the government calls them "residential housing facilities" - whatever the **** that means.

I know the difference between a prison camp and a housing project.
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So, in other words, it's a housing project, and not a political dissident FEMA camp, thank you for that.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Seriously?

You have said it numerous times...

You clearly stated: "what's wrong with the FBI investigating a crime."
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I said potential crime. Mr.Nick, I think you maybe need to sit down, you're becoming very emotional. Are you crying as you type?
 
AJiveMan said:
So, in other words, it's a housing project, and not a political dissident FEMA camp, thank you for that.
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I've never seen an abandoned housing project fenced in to keep people from leaving - nor have I ever seen one that resembles a minimum security prison.

These "camps" are modeled after minimum security prisons...

See Jacksonville, Illinois prison as an example or Pittsfield work camp.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I said potential crime. Mr.Nick, I think you maybe need to sit down, you're becoming very emotional. Are you crying as you type?
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You never used the word "potential."

Not only that but using a word such as "potential" to describe a crime is hilarious considering you either commit a crime or you don't and there is no "gray" or potential in that concept.

Also, do you believe I type standing up? not to mention cry like Glenn Beck?
 
Mr.Nick said:
You never used the word "potential."
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Ahaha well that's a blatant lie. You can quote my posts if you want.

Not only that but using a word such as "potential" to describe a crime is hilarious considering you either commit a crime or you don't and there is no "gray" or potential in that concept.
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Lol what
 
Mr.Nick said:
I've never seen an abandoned housing project fenced in to keep people from leaving - nor have I ever seen one that resembles a minimum security prison.

These "camps" are modeled after minimum security prisons...

See Jacksonville, Illinois prison as an example or Pittsfield work camp.
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In New Mexico, FEMA placed trailers in a fenced and gated community right after the flooding of Hatch, and nearby community, it stands to this very day as far as I know. Are those for political dissidents too?

Oh, yeah, I've heard of minimum security prisons, they're all over the place, and usually run by the state of where they're located.

Me thinks enough of this stupid back and forth stuff, let's get back on the topic now.

FBI investigating Bundy supporters? Did anyone expect anything less?

I'm awaiting a Bundy arrest any day now.
 
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iacardsfan said:
As a Libertarian, I am disgusted about the conservative backlash at the federal government in this case. While I hate the federal government just as much as the next guy, Bundy is a leech. He violated a federal law, whether he agrees with it or not. Why is this man applauded when he leeches off the federal government, its disgusting. You supporters are what give the conservative movement a bad reputation.
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I think it's not really accurate to call him a leech... i mean, I suppose he does owe some fees, but let's not pretend the government actually does anything with that land... they most assuredly do not.... they don't put any money into that land at all.... they don't care for it, they don't maintain it, they don't set foot on it.
absentee landlord is an apt term

we natives knew something was going on out in that area in the early 90's.. lo and behold, most of the ranchers out there are gone now.
when the put in a big ol hiway interchange in the middle of nowhere, you know the the usual suspects are planning on cashing in on something.

the only time anything is done with BLM land is when a ranking politician come up with a corrupt scheme to sell it to his crony developers ( foreign and domestic), or buy it... to make his own money off it.
I'm a Nevada native... that **** is done all the time.
Harry Reid isn't the first corrupt Nevada politician to get rich on such schemes... and he won't be the last

but for some odd reason, folks are oh-so worried about cows eating scrub brush off of land nobody gives a **** about.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Ahaha well that's a blatant lie. You can quote my posts if you want.


Lol what
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Seriously?

You go right ahead and steal a candy bar and then use the excuse/defense (not that it is either) of "I potentially stole the candy bar."

Yeah, potentially I'm Stephen Hawking...
 
Mr.Nick said:
Seriously?

You go right ahead and steal a candy bar and then use the excuse/defense (not that it is either) of "I potentially stole the candy bar."

Yeah, potentially I'm Stephen Hawking...
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But other than you, no one knows until it's investigated. Did you steal a candy bar, Mr.Nick? It's that what this is about? You stole a candy bar and crossed state lines and don't want the FBI to be able to investigate it? Come clean now and they'll go easy on you!

Did you want to apologize for saying I never used the word potential? Oh, you do? Apology accepted! It takes a big man to admit when he's horribly, horribly wrong, that was good of you, Mr.Nick!
 
Mr.Nick said:
I've never seen an abandoned housing project fenced in to keep people from leaving - nor have I ever seen one that resembles a minimum security prison.

These "camps" are modeled after minimum security prisons...

See Jacksonville, Illinois prison as an example or Pittsfield work camp.
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Get back on topic please, or I'll begin reporting them as off topic, end of story.
 
AJiveMan said:
In New Mexico, FEMA placed trailers in a fenced and gated community right after the flooding of Hatch, and nearby community, it stands to this very day as far as I know. Are those for political dissidents too?

Oh, yeah, I've heard of minimum security prisons, they're all over the place, and usually run by the state of where they're located.

Me thinks enough of this stupid back and forth stuff, let's get back on the topic now.

FBI investigating Bundy supporters? Did anyone expect anything less?

I'm awaiting a Bundy arrest any day now.
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No, those are just the idiots who didn't understand the concept of leaving NOLA.

How does one not evacuate - especially given 10 days notice?

I don't know how: "leave or you will drown to death" can go over some peoples heads.

Besides all that, your crime rate went up severely with that migration did it not?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
But other than you, no one knows until it's investigated. Did you steal a candy bar, Mr.Nick? It's that what this is about? You stole a candy bar and crossed state lines and don't want the FBI to be able to investigate it? Come clean now and they'll go easy on you!

Did you want to apologize for saying I never used the word potential? Oh, you do? Apology accepted! It takes a big man to admit when he's horribly, horribly wrong, that was good of you, Mr.Nick!
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...supporters-blm-dispute-34.html#post1063260760
 
Grant said:
If US Corporations have stopped making 'stuff', what is the government buying from them?
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Guy, this may come as a big shock to you, but a LOT of what our government buys is made outside our borders and imported by our corporations - cars, trucks, televisions, computers...you name it. Those things that we do still produce, the government often buys as well. But the government cannot run without supplies from the private sector.

Excluding cases of crony capitalism within this administration, do you have links to any of this?
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I don't need links to prove it - just go to ANY government office, look at any government vehicle, any DOD installation...and ask yourself "did our government make any of the stuff I see itself?" The answer will of course be "NO" - the government owns no factories. Therefore, EVERYTHING you see - from the buildings to the desks, from the tanks to the fighter jets, from the computers to the chairs, every pill and bottle of medicine that Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA dispenses, were ALL bought from the private sector.

So the government is using taxpayer money to engage in "waste, fraud, and abuse"? I have little trust in the government either but do you have links to these potential crimes?
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Dude, there's waste, fraud, and abuse in our government just as there is in ANY organization made up of human beings - to think otherwise is the height of naivete. BUT if you've really been around, you'd grasp that our government is actually less corrupt than most. Why? Because of the freedom of our press. The freer a nation's press, the less corrupt the government will generally be.

That said, the government buys ALL its supplies from the private sector...which means that our taxpayer dollars DO go to corruption within the private sector - which is at least as corrupt as the government ever was. If you've got a better idea of how to make things work, though, let's hear it!
 
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