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The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

I am neither Dem nor Rep AND I think Hilary Clinton is staggeringly overrated...but this whole Benghazi thing is really starting to smell of Rep desperation.

Is this really the largest injustice that America presently faces?

I guess it just is the largest one the Reps do not have blood on their hands from.

No, another Clinton President is the largest injustice America presently faces.
 
The families of the 4 men asked for an investigation. Would it be wise for the GOP not to investigate and tell them "well, we don't want to look desperate, so you're SOL"?

I'm fine with them investigating.

And let's face it - how many votes do you think it would get them that they wouldn't already get anyway? They aren't that stupid. This isn't to gain votes.

What are the Dems afraid of? If they can survive an investigation then they did nothing wrong.

This leads me to believe they did something wrong; maybe not illegal, but they sure ****ed the embassy personnel and then tried to cover up their ineptness with the :bs video lies.
 
The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.


Didn't you hear? Bush lied and the liberals swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

The same Dems that despise him and think he stole the election.

Then they completely believed him on an issue as important as invading another country.

And I thought Romney was the flip-flopper.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063253397 said:
Didn't you hear? Bush lied and the liberals swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

The same Dems that despise him and think he stole the election.

Then they completely believed him on an issue as important as invading another country.

And I thought Romney was the flip-flopper.

And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone. :confused:

Greetings, Mo. :2wave:
 
And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone. :confused:

Greetings, Mo. :2wave:

Greetings polgara. I hear you, but the democrat base continuously gives them a pass. Just wait, we'll see it again soon.

In other words, Bush lied, which is :giggle1:
 
I fault both parties for wanting to go to Iraq.

But the GOP were the one's that started it and now they are making a massive stink about 4 American's that died needlessly when they should also be examining how the massive mistake that was Iraq happened and to hold those who perpetrated it responsible.

But they won't.

Sorry, but in my opinion, that is hypocrisy.

And what they are doing with Benghazi is little more then political opportunism, IMO.

You are of course free to disagree..but there is no changing my mind on this.

There are problems in America that require FAR more study and action then what happened in Benghazi 1 1/2+ years ago.

Sure, examine what happened...but get on with the other problems...they require more urgent attention.
What happened in Benghazi cannot be changed, but America's economy can.

Yeah, what difference does it make? That's the spirit. It can't be changed, so let's look the other way.
 
Because they were given false intelligence.

LOL! That's the best. The democrats got the false intelligence, while they secretly saved the real stuff for the republicans. Poor democrats, being lead around by the republicans. Is there anything the left will not swallow from their leaders?
 
Yeah, what difference does it make? That's the spirit. It can't be changed, so let's look the other way.

Do you even read posts before you comment on them?

Apparently not.

I said 'sure, examine what happened'.

Next time read it before you comment on it...just a suggestion.


Good day.
 
I wonder how much dems raised off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys in Iraq and Afghanistan?
I wonder how much the oil and defense industry made off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys (and women) in Iraq and Afghanistan, too.
 
The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.

Tres you know DEMs had to vote for war, such as Clinton, so the GOP wouldn't throw the Patriot card at them, quite the thing with the GOP to do since Reagan. Especially when that solid evidence on WMDs blew up in their face, starting the current finger-pointing .
 
Yeah, what difference does it make?

Taking a talking point completely out of context to make a little political hay on dead personnel huh? This new "select" committee is termed "special" by Boehner, obviously meaning the last 12 were "not special". How many "special" committees convened after the three Beirut terrorist attacks ?
 
I have zero problem with them investigating.

My problem is with the incredible amount of attention the GOP seems to be putting on to it.

The economy is stalled, the budget is a mess, Obama is playing chicken with Russia over the Ukraine and THIS is the GOP's big issue with democrats?

I wish the GOP had spent this much energy investigating Bush for the ridiculous war in Iraq and the 4,000+ brave American soldiers it cost. Or the many other brave soldiers that have died in Afghanistan for nothing (strategically).


IMO, this is little more then GOP desperation. They lost on Obamacare, they seem as clueless on the economy as the Dems and they realize that since the Fed basically controls the economy AND that the Fed is in the WH's back pocket; that the Fed just has to ramp up QE before the mid-terms to artificially stimulate the economy and give the Dem's the edge.

In other words, the Reps know that the Dems are in the driver's seat and this is all the Reps (IMO) have.

I sincerely do not believe the GOP leaders care that much about those that died at Benghazi...because they sure did not seem to care this much about thousands of Americans dying in Iraq/Afghanistan. They just smell some political blood...and they are hungry.


Additionally, I also feel that freaking out about those 4 that died in Benghazi while the Rep leaders allowed thousands of Americans to die overseas is hypocrisy.

I dunno. I thought the controversy over Obama's birth certificate was funnier.

Hey, GOP. Want to really nail Obama? You can start by pushing the truth. Obama is spying on Americans at home, and executing them without due process abroad. Bring that up, and I will gladly join you in calling for his impeachment. No more silliness, please. Attack Obama where he is really vulnerable and guilty.
 
And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone. :confused:

Greetings, Mo. :2wave:

Only half the Democrats voted for the war....whereas all of the Republican voted for it. Except for Ron Paul, I don't recall seeing any conservative pundits protest against the war or participate in any of the anti-war protests ...some of which were the largest peaceful protests in world history. Funny how that hardly made the news.

Hello Polgara.
 
Do you even read posts before you comment on them?

Apparently not.

I said 'sure, examine what happened'.

Next time read it before you comment on it...just a suggestion.


Good day.

Oh, no. Don't pull that crap. You down played Benghazi, just like Obama. Hey, let's move on. You went on about Iraq, as if they are the same thing. If your throw away line about examing what happened meant anything, you wouldn't be comparing it to Iraq and saying get on with it.

It's not just that it was a horrible failure, this administration has blocked all attempts to figure out what happened, and in particular what the Hell Obama did or didn't do about it. That is a huge red flag that the left is trying to push aside.
 
I dunno. I thought the controversy over Obama's birth certificate was funnier.

Hey, GOP. Want to really nail Obama? You can start by pushing the truth. Obama is spying on Americans at home, and executing them without due process abroad. Bring that up, and I will gladly join you in calling for his impeachment. No more silliness, please. Attack Obama where he is really vulnerable and guilty.

Don't you remember, this is the most transparent administration in history? Everything we need to see is available already. Or is it everything he will let us see is available already?
 
Tres you know DEMs had to vote for war, such as Clinton, so the GOP wouldn't throw the Patriot card at them, quite the thing with the GOP to do since Reagan. Especially when that solid evidence on WMDs blew up in their face, starting the current finger-pointing .

Since when do the Dems care what the GOP says about them?
 
I wonder how much the oil and defense industry made off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys (and women) in Iraq and Afghanistan, too.

I guess were making the same point. The pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black.... (BTW. Is that still an ok saying???)
 
Oh, no. Don't pull that crap. You down played Benghazi, just like Obama. Hey, let's move on. You went on about Iraq, as if they are the same thing. If your throw away line about examing what happened meant anything, you wouldn't be comparing it to Iraq and saying get on with it.

It's not just that it was a horrible failure, this administration has blocked all attempts to figure out what happened, and in particular what the Hell Obama did or didn't do about it. That is a huge red flag that the left is trying to push aside.

Right...On one side we have President who invaded a nation using false intelligence provided by the CIA causing the deaths of 4000+ Americans ( more than died in 911) and on the other we have 4 Americans who died in a tiny consulate in Africa because the CIA failed to protect them from a terrorist plot. What is the common denominator and which is more of tragedy?
 
Well said by Mr. Cotton...


and a different perspective (from the next President of the United States of America):
As a Senator, I take oversight seriously because it is powerfully important. But Trey Gowdy gives oversight a bad name. The House GOP is on a waste-of-time-and-resources witch hunt and fundraising sideshow, shamefully grasping for any straw to make President Obama, former Secretary Clinton, or Secretary Kerry look bad. This stunt does a disservice to those who serve our country abroad, and it distracts us from issues we should be taking up on behalf of the American people.

With millions of people still out of work and millions more working full time yet still living below the poverty line, with students drowning in debt, with roads and bridges crumbling, is this really what the House Republicans are choosing to spend their time on? Even for guys who have so few solutions to offer that they have voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare, this is a new low.
Elizabeth Warren Slams Chair of the GOP's New Benghazi Committee | Mother Jones
 
Right...On one side we have President who invaded a nation using false intelligence provided by the CIA causing the deaths of 4000+ Americans ( more than died in 911) and on the other we have 4 Americans who died in a tiny consulate in Africa because the CIA failed to protect them from a terrorist plot. What is the common denominator and which is more of tragedy?

Okay, let's clear up the false info on the left. Those on the left like to lie and act as if not finding WMD in Iraq made it wrong to invade. Of course this is wrong and you would have to be just plain stupid to fall for that. Just violating the cease fire was enough, and there were many more reasons to go in, so that is just pain BS. We knew we would lose lives, and everyone is precious.
Of course, those in the "tiny" consulate don't matter much to the left, since it's a big f-up by Obama. Those lives don't matter so much, just minimize it, get over it, it was like 2 years ago, Dude, so let's move on so we don't find out that our POS POTUS didn't give a sh*t because he needed to look good for an election, so screw them, he's going to bed. He's got a big fundraiser in the morning and doesn't need to be bothered with people that need help right now. What does it matter, anyway?
 
LOL! That's the best. The democrats got the false intelligence, while they secretly saved the real stuff for the republicans. Poor democrats, being lead around by the republicans. Is there anything the left will not swallow from their leaders?


Yes, they were given false intelligence. If you do not believe that, then you're naive at best. And, if you can remember, there was a very strong sense of urgency at the time, so there wasn't any time for Democrats to hold 56 hearings at finding the truth.
 
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