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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I have zero problem with them investigating.

    My problem is with the incredible amount of attention the GOP seems to be putting on to it.

    The economy is stalled, the budget is a mess, Obama is playing chicken with Russia over the Ukraine and THIS is the GOP's big issue with democrats?

    I wish the GOP had spent this much energy investigating Bush for the ridiculous war in Iraq and the 4,000+ brave American soldiers it cost. Or the many other brave soldiers that have died in Afghanistan for nothing (strategically).


    IMO, this is little more then GOP desperation. They lost on Obamacare, they seem as clueless on the economy as the Dems and they realize that since the Fed basically controls the economy AND that the Fed is in the WH's back pocket; that the Fed just has to ramp up QE before the mid-terms to artificially stimulate the economy and give the Dem's the edge.

    In other words, the Reps know that the Dems are in the driver's seat and this is all the Reps (IMO) have.

    I sincerely do not believe the GOP leaders care that much about those that died at Benghazi...because they sure did not seem to care this much about thousands of Americans dying in Iraq/Afghanistan. They just smell some political blood...and they are hungry.


    Additionally, I also feel that freaking out about those 4 that died in Benghazi while the Rep leaders allowed thousands of Americans to die overseas is hypocrisy.
    The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.

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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Oops...

    what was that about a "new low"....


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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.
    I fault both parties for wanting to go to Iraq.

    But the GOP were the one's that started it and now they are making a massive stink about 4 American's that died needlessly when they should also be examining how the massive mistake that was Iraq happened and to hold those who perpetrated it responsible.

    But they won't.

    Sorry, but in my opinion, that is hypocrisy.

    And what they are doing with Benghazi is little more then political opportunism, IMO.

    You are of course free to disagree..but there is no changing my mind on this.

    There are problems in America that require FAR more study and action then what happened in Benghazi 1 1/2+ years ago.

    Sure, examine what happened...but get on with the other problems...they require more urgent attention.
    What happened in Benghazi cannot be changed, but America's economy can.
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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I have zero problem with them investigating.

    My problem is with the incredible amount of attention the GOP seems to be putting on to it.

    The economy is stalled, the budget is a mess, Obama is playing chicken with Russia over the Ukraine and THIS is the GOP's big issue with democrats?

    I wish the GOP had spent this much energy investigating Bush for the ridiculous war in Iraq and the 4,000+ brave American soldiers it cost. Or the many other brave soldiers that have died in Afghanistan for nothing (strategically).


    IMO, this is little more then GOP desperation. They lost on Obamacare, they seem as clueless on the economy as the Dems and they realize that since the Fed basically controls the economy AND that the Fed is in the WH's back pocket; that the Fed just has to ramp up QE before the mid-terms to artificially stimulate the economy and give the Dem's the edge.

    In other words, the Reps know that the Dems are in the driver's seat and this is all the Reps (IMO) have.

    I sincerely do not believe the GOP leaders care that much about those that died at Benghazi...because they sure did not seem to care this much about thousands of Americans dying in Iraq/Afghanistan. They just smell some political blood...and they are hungry.


    Additionally, I also feel that freaking out about those 4 that died in Benghazi while the Rep leaders allowed thousands of Americans to die overseas is hypocrisy.
    The economy has started to contract ( after the revisions ) but no amount of Bi-Partisan action is going to fix our economic issues.

    The Dems aren't going to kill ObamaCare and Obama has now promised to increase the cost of energy for millions of struggling Americans.

    You and I agree on the effects of removing more and more of the Middle-class's discretionary income.

    Benghazi is such a huge issue because of its implications and the only reason its seen as a Republican only issue is because the Democrats have chosen to close their ranks and defend the indefensible.

    Its not the Republicans who are making it a Partisan issue.

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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    No, a new...and very desperate low for the DNC.
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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am neither Dem nor Rep AND I think Hilary Clinton is staggeringly overrated...but this whole Benghazi thing is really starting to smell of Rep desperation.

    Is this really the largest injustice that America presently faces?

    I guess it just is the largest one the Reps do not have blood on their hands from.
    No, another Clinton President is the largest injustice America presently faces.
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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The families of the 4 men asked for an investigation. Would it be wise for the GOP not to investigate and tell them "well, we don't want to look desperate, so you're SOL"?

    I'm fine with them investigating.

    And let's face it - how many votes do you think it would get them that they wouldn't already get anyway? They aren't that stupid. This isn't to gain votes.
    What are the Dems afraid of? If they can survive an investigation then they did nothing wrong.

    This leads me to believe they did something wrong; maybe not illegal, but they sure ****ed the embassy personnel and then tried to cover up their ineptness with the video lies.
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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.

    Didn't you hear? Bush lied and the liberals swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

    The same Dems that despise him and think he stole the election.

    Then they completely believed him on an issue as important as invading another country.

    And I thought Romney was the flip-flopper.
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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Didn't you hear? Bush lied and the liberals swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

    The same Dems that despise him and think he stole the election.

    Then they completely believed him on an issue as important as invading another country.

    And I thought Romney was the flip-flopper.
    And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone.

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    Re: The Newest Benghazi Controversy: Political Fundraising

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone.

    Greetings, Mo.
    Greetings polgara. I hear you, but the democrat base continuously gives them a pass. Just wait, we'll see it again soon.

    In other words, Bush lied, which is
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