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Russian Bombers Buzz California[W:21:34]

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That's what they were saying two years ago. It just keeps going up in price.

What's going on, the Obama administration is bypassing DARPA.

I doubt that very much.

Obama is doing whatever on earth DARPA and others tell him to do. He might be a clown, but he's smart enough to understand why JFK was killed.

I'm curious as to whether this flyby of California happened in the same time frame as the U-2 that supposedly crashed the SoCal ATC computers?
 
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Do you know why we don't use JP-4 any more? Hint: overly volitile and builds up a static charge. Why you would even bring up something that we have not used in some years, I dunno. It is kinda stupid and shows your usual ignorance when it comes to the military.

I knew you were going to bring that up. The Navy doesn't use JP-4 and yes I know the reason. Lessons learned on the USS Forrestal.
 
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If you aren't making **** up, please show proof where the Air Force was holding sensitivity classes to such a point they couldn't respond to this and that sensitivity classes were the reason.

Really sad that you have to lie, but then I expect no honesty from a Con.

About two years ago a fighter squadron was conducting a week long combat flight training missions and during the middle of the mission the entire squadron was pulled out of the sky. While their aircraft were being refueled the pilots were ordered to return to their home base to attend mandatory sensitivity training classes. I **** you not.

You are aware of the Air Force drag queens performing on U.S. Air Force bases ? I **** you not.
 
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I doubt that very much.

Obama is doing whatever on earth DARPA and others tell him to do. He might be a clown, but he's smart enough to understand why JFK was killed.

I'm curious as to whether this flyby of California happened in the same time frame as the U-2 that supposedly crashed the SoCal ATC computers?

Sorry, I just saw W:21.

But there's already an active thread where Obama's PC green fuel is the topic.
 
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The Russian Army has been known to have incidents of forcing conscripts into male prostitution to make money for the rest of the unit, they aren't as worried about catching the "gay cooties" as you are.

Do you know what homophobia is ?

It's the fear of having a penis in your mouth.

I''m a homophobe, how about you ?
 
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With how much money we waste on defense I find it amusing to single out something because it is "green". You guys are like Pavlovs dog. Did you ever think that it might be a test to see if jets can really fly on algae? That in the future it might actually be cheaper to make fuel that way? Billion and billions wasted on a jet fighter nobody wants and green fuel is all you can complain about?

This is no time for singularism, there is not one issue here, but many the primary being the commander in chief's understanding of the military consequences of screwing with a duly elected government within the Russian sphere of influence. FFS the Obama administration is on tape bragging about the CIA "gluing this thing together" as rioting and death spread across Kiyv.

It is preposterous now that both the White House and the US military seemed shocked by the re-action; Putin warned Bush he would "tear her apart" if the Us messed with Ukaine, and now he has. What is so shocking to everyone about that? Or did Obamaland buy it's own hype that Obama had a clue.

Now we have a general responsible for the security of the whole nation seemingly shocked, shocked I tell you, that Russian war planes would dare challenge the skies in other areas; not send a signal that said "Mr. Obama, the Kremlin is serious. We want our country back...stay out of it."

The White House seemed to think Putin would close the Olympics without his cherished gold medal in men's hockey and ignore the "regime change" on his doorstep.

One again, arrogance, only this time it brought us to the brink of all out warfare.
 
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I think I agree, it would take virtually no effort at all to turn those bombers into scrap metal. Let them fly by and think they did something.

Unless it's a probe, to see what they can get away with.

The Japanese didn't engage the Enola Gay, because, "what's one lone airplane going to do?"
 
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About two years ago a fighter squadron was conducting a week long combat flight training missions and during the middle of the mission the entire squadron was pulled out of the sky. While their aircraft were being refueled the pilots were ordered to return to their home base to attend mandatory sensitivity training classes. I **** you not.

You are aware of the Air Force drag queens performing on U.S. Air Force bases ? I **** you not.

Sorry but I am not going to take your word on that, either you have proof in this case or you don't. Sounds like you just want to make **** up about this case and that's all I need to know.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
This was the previous in-thread posted just hours ago:

Moderator's Warning:
Last I saw this thread was about Russian aircraft buzzing California and Guam. Not green fuel for jets. Stick to the topic.


The topic is as stated, not drag queens or homophobia or anything unrelated to the OP. Stick to the topic and participate in good faith please because thread bans and/or points will be given.
 
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Unless it's a probe, to see what they can get away with.

The Japanese didn't engage the Enola Gay, because, "what's one lone airplane going to do?"

Seems to me they have standing orders for this sort of thing.
 
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So reading the actual sources, no one buzzed anything, the worst case is that some planes went to the coast, where the US kindly did not shoot them down as not being worth the time. Somehow I am not overly concerned...


That's your reason why we wouldn't shoot them down? Did you want to try again?
 
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The Russians aircraft are in international airspace. It's nothing more than Putin sending a message to Obama that he's a pantywaist while flipping Obama the bird and at the same time the Russian aircraft are gathering intelligence watching what our response is, what fighters are scrambled, what air defense radars are activated what frequencies are being used listening to what is being said. They do it we do it. It's a typical Cold War snoop and poop mission.

If you remeber on the day of Obama's State of the Union address to Congress in 2013 Putin did the same thing when Russian bombers circled Guam three times. Putin picked that day when the entire American government would be sitting in the Capitol building as sending a message to Obama that while Obama is playing checkers, Putin is playing chess and the Russian bear is no longer in hibernation. That from now on Russia is a world power and don't for get it.
 
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But we should be.

On the one hand, it's not like the Russians or the German or even the Japaneses have never flown a plane in U.S. airspace before nor sailed a surface or submarine into U.S. waters. There's plenty of evidence to prove they've all done it in the past and in some cases long before the public (or our intelligence agencies) even knew they were their. What makes this recent Russian sortie interesting is they hadn't tried in over 20 years. So, Russia's starting to "stretch their legs". The question the Joint Chiefs need to start asking themselves is "how do we stop it before things get out of hand?" My :2cents: worth:

1) increase surface/air surveillance in the Pacific and Atlantic.

2) Send a couple of our fighter-bombers to zip right up to the edge of Russia's airspace...see how they like it.

I agree. Increase our presence in the Pacific. No need to take our bombers on a joy ride up the side of Russia. Other than that, doesn't our military have enough stuff going on?
 
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Means little to me...if they were NOT doing this, then I would be worried.

Normal urinating contest stuff.
 
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So reading the actual sources, no one buzzed anything, the worst case is that some planes went to the coast, where the US kindly did not shoot them down as not being worth the time. Somehow I am not overly concerned...

Like we aren't buzzing all over their world?
 
(Reuters) - The head of U.S. air forces in the Pacific said on Monday that Russia's intervention in Ukraine had been accompanied by a significant increase in Russian air activity in the Asia-Pacific region in a show of strength and to gather intelligence.
General Herbert "Hawk" Carlisle said the activity had included Russian flights to the coast of California, and around the U.S. Pacific island of Guam.
Carlisle said the number of long-range Russian patrols around the Japanese islands and Korea had increased "drastically." He said there had also been "a lot more ship activity as well."
Speaking at Washington's Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank, Carlisle showed a slide of a U.S. F-15 fighter jet intercepting a Russian "Bear" aircraft over Guam. He used the Cold War NATO name for Russia's Tupolov Tu-95 strategic bomber.
"Certainly what's going on in Ukraine and Crimea is a challenge for us and it's a challenge for us in Asia Pacific as well as Europe," Carlisle said.
He said there had been "a significant" increase in Russian activity in the Asia Pacific "and we relate a lot of that to what's going on in the Ukraine."
"They've come with their long-range aviation out to the coast of California, they've circumnavigated Guam," he said.
"That's to demonstrate their capability to do it, it's to gather intel," Carlisle said, adding that the surveillance had included observation of military exercises involving U.S. forces in South Korea and Japan.
"There are things that are concerning with respect to how they operate and how transparent they are with other nations in the vicinity," he said.
Carlisle did not give details of the incidents and the Defense Department and the U.S. Air Force and Navy in the Pacific did not immediately respond to a request for more information.
Mike Green, senior vice president for Asia at CSIS, said the frequency of incidents was up and described them as being "evocative of the Cold War".
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced in 2007 that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace that were suspended in 1992 after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Putin, who made the announcement during a joint military exercise with China, said the move was necessary to guarantee Russia's safety and that other nations had not followed Moscow's example in suspending such flights

U.S.: Russian planes flew near California, Guam, in upped activity | Reuters

If true I'm not shocked by Obamas lack of actions.

Putin has been trying to start a war for a while now and Obama has done nothing...

Flying into US airspace is certainly a no-no and Reagan certainly would have bitch-slapped Putin so hard he would have left a birthmark the size of Gorbachev on Putins face if Reagan was POTUS..

Maybe we should send some stealth bombers or fighters to go buzz Russia?

No, forget that I would continually "buzz" Cuba and other Russian satellites.

Either way Obama is a weak punk.
 
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Means little to me...if they were NOT doing this, then I would be worried.

Normal urinating contest stuff.


Yeah DA.....we aren't the only one they got up and watching. The Brits even has on of the Top ships out on the J.O.B.


UK deploys destroyer to track large Russian naval task force.....


Britain has deployed a destroyer to track an unusually large Russian naval task force transiting the English Channel, it said on Thursday and also noted a "resurgence" in Russian air activity close to its airspace.

The Ministry of Defense said the decision to dispatch HMS Dragon, one of Britain's newest and most sophisticated ships, to track the Russian naval force was routine and that the Russians had notified it of their transit plans in advance.

"What is different here is that a Russian task group of this size has not passed by our shores in some time," Captain Rex Cox, HMS Dragon's commanding officer, said in a statement.

The task force included Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, the Ministry of Defense said, as well as a nuclear-powered battle cruiser, a landing support ship, three tankers and a tug.

A Russian naval spokesman said last month that the Kuznetsov had completed a deployment in the Mediterranean and was on its way back to its base of Severomorsk in northwest Russia.

Defense Secretary Philip Hammond played down the deployment of HMS Dragon, which was dispatched in similar circumstances last month to shadow another Russian warship.....snip~

UK deploys destroyer to track large Russian naval task force
 
If true I'm not shocked by Obamas lack of actions.

Putin has been trying to start a war for a while now and Obama has done nothing... .

Hate to break it to you Nick. But we have ships and airplanes near them every minute of every day. Shall we bomb them?
 
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Are we sure Calif didn't invite the Russians?

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Seems to me they have standing orders for this sort of thing.

They probably have standing orders to stand down until further orders are issue, now.
 
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But we should be.

On the one hand, it's not like the Russians or the German or even the Japaneses have never flown a plane in U.S. airspace before nor sailed a surface or submarine into U.S. waters. There's plenty of evidence to prove they've all done it in the past and in some cases long before the public (or our intelligence agencies) even knew they were their. What makes this recent Russian sortie interesting is they hadn't tried in over 20 years. So, Russia's starting to "stretch their legs". The question the Joint Chiefs need to start asking themselves is "how do we stop it before things get out of hand?" My :2cents: worth:

1) increase surface/air surveillance in the Pacific and Atlantic.

2) Send a couple of our fighter-bombers to zip right up to the edge of Russia's airspace...see how they like it.

Oooooh, bad idea! Some trigger happy AAA gunner might shoot his ass down and then we might have a shootin war.

The best response is to immediately challenge the presence of the unauthorized aircraft and show them we are locked, cocked and ready to rock.
 
Hate to break it to you Nick. But we have ships and airplanes near them every minute of every day. Shall we bomb them?

Near them, where?
 
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