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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    So reading the actual sources, no one buzzed anything, the worst case is that some planes went to the coast, where the US kindly did not shoot them down as not being worth the time. Somehow I am not overly concerned...
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    With how much money we waste on defense I find it amusing to single out something because it is "green". You guys are like Pavlovs dog. Did you ever think that it might be a test to see if jets can really fly on algae? That in the future it might actually be cheaper to make fuel that way? Billion and billions wasted on a jet fighter nobody wants and green fuel is all you can complain about?
    They are also basing it on startup costs and not actual production costs.
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So reading the actual sources, no one buzzed anything, the worst case is that some planes went to the coast, where the US kindly did not shoot them down as not being worth the time. Somehow I am not overly concerned...
    The Air Force couldn't shoot them down, they were attending mandatory sensitivity classes at the time.

    They probably didn't even have any fuel for their F-15's and F-16's because some other fighter was fueled with $150 per gallon green fuel. At $150 per gallon, that would have filled the fuel tanks of over 40 F-15's.

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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are also basing it on startup costs and not actual production costs.
    That's what they were saying two years ago. It just keeps going up in price.

    What's going on, the Obama administration is bypassing DARPA.

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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Air Force couldn't shoot them down, they were attending mandatory sensitivity classes at the time.

    They probably didn't even have any fuel for their F-15's and F-16's because some other fighter was fueled with $150 per gallon green fuel. At $150 per gallon, that would have filled the fuel tanks of over 40 F-15's.
    That is, not surprisingly, wrong in every possible way. Good to see your idea of debate is still making **** up.
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's what they were saying two years ago. It just keeps going up in price.

    What's going on, the Obama administration is bypassing DARPA.
    That is because people keep recycling the same crap. Get a new outrage, this one failed miserably the last time you tried it.
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is, not surprisingly, wrong in every possible way. Good to see your idea of debate is still making **** up.
    I'm not making **** up.

    Are you saying no sensitivity classes were conducted on the day Russian bombers approached California ?

    The cost of fueling one F-15 with PC green fuel, 40 F-15's could have been fueled at the same cost with politically incorrect JP-4.

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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'm not making **** up.

    Are you saying no sensitivity classes were conducted on the day Russian bombers approached California ?

    The cost of fueling one F-15 with PC green fuel, 40 F-15's could have been fueled at the same cost with politically incorrect JP-4.
    Do you know why we don't use JP-4 any more? Hint: overly volitile and builds up a static charge. Why you would even bring up something that we have not used in some years, I dunno. It is kinda stupid and shows your usual ignorance when it comes to the military.
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So reading the actual sources, no one buzzed anything, the worst case is that some planes went to the coast, where the US kindly did not shoot them down as not being worth the time. Somehow I am not overly concerned...
    But we should be.

    On the one hand, it's not like the Russians or the German or even the Japaneses have never flown a plane in U.S. airspace before nor sailed a surface or submarine into U.S. waters. There's plenty of evidence to prove they've all done it in the past and in some cases long before the public (or our intelligence agencies) even knew they were their. What makes this recent Russian sortie interesting is they hadn't tried in over 20 years. So, Russia's starting to "stretch their legs". The question the Joint Chiefs need to start asking themselves is "how do we stop it before things get out of hand?" My :2cents: worth:

    1) increase surface/air surveillance in the Pacific and Atlantic.

    2) Send a couple of our fighter-bombers to zip right up to the edge of Russia's airspace...see how they like it.
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    Re: Russian Bombers Buzz California

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's what they were saying two years ago. It just keeps going up in price.

    What's going on, the Obama administration is bypassing DARPA.
    If that's really the case, why should you be upset about it considering DARPA is an overpriced arm of federal bureaucracy filled with cost-overruns and red tape? It's really just a big, over-priced military think-tank. Don't get me wrong, however. Some of the ideas they've come up with have paid off big time to improve our military fighting capabilities, but most of our military weapons concepts actually come from the private sector - same as they always have. I'd think that someone like you who's so anti-big government would relish the idea that DARPA is being bypassed for more military concepts that come straight from the minds of enterprising minds within the private sector.

    Oh, wait...that only works if it's a part of big gubment you want to keep in order to continue throwing around the notion that a liberal president is anti-military and weak on national defense. Okay...carry-on with your ideological propaganda.
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