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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

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    Excellent, nothing gets me more excited than innovation and invention. There is nothing else in the world that showcases the raw might that is humanity. Humanity may now be like God soon, who knows? Be it 10000 years or 1000, it is my hope for us to become omnipotent.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

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    You posted that idiotic verse because you wanted to imply that this would anger God and he'd bring his wrath down on us like he supposedly did with the tower of babel. It's pure anti-science bull****.

    Keep living in ignorance. Carry on.
    You really do have trouble with the concepts of "respect for others," and that Science is dispassionate, do you not? In other words, you attempt to defend the concept scientific orthodoxy (which has long been an impediment to the advance of science, see: Galileo, see: Einstein,) by the expression of emotionality, which is antithetical to the concept of Science (see: Vulcan.)

    In point of fact, in the last century or so, we've seen not God, but political leaders bring down mass destruction upon Humanity through the application of knowledge gained through the use of Science, and by presenting various forms of bigotry, pugilism, political constructs and social orders as "scientific." God has been able to take a break from the wrath business.

    And if you'd care to apply a little thought, you'll soon discover that a very great deal of what passes for Science today, is really not, especially where human motivations and political aspirations are part of the mix. AGW, for instance.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why? It's fascinating and could have potential benefits when it comes to creating biologics and research.
    You're right, however, there's always another side to things (pros vs. cons). The negative aspects of this are, naturally, unforeseen consequences and this technology going over into the realm of the military.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I get why you feel that way, obviously, but I think people who are so enthusiastic about this sort of thing are thinking too much about themselves and not about the general impact on society. What do you think would happen if people could suddenly live forever? You can't very well have people making babies at their current pace, not unless only certain people would be allowed this privilege of radically extended lifespans.
    Well, to my understanding actual immortality would be next to impossible.

    There's just general every day risks that can occur, there's disease that's possible, etc. I'm mostly thinking about aging. And even then, from the little I've researched in it the thought is that at most you're realistically simply adding a a few extra decades onto life.

    As to "certain people would be allowed", no...but I'm not the utopian type that thinks everything should just be given to people. I can't imagine whatever efforts that occur in this regard is simply going to be the cost of a pack of gum at the local 7-11. To my understanding, even today, the life expectency in various countries widely differs. For example, average life expectency in the US is 5 years greater than that of China.

    That's no small thing mind you, but it's far from living forever.

    The birth rate has been dropping steadily in the United States at the very least. Less people are having kids, or are having kids at an older age. I would be shocked if such a trend didn't significantly continue if we managed to extend life by and extra 20 years. The life expectency in South Africa is 20 years less than China.

    I'm relatively confident about man's ability to adapt to their environment and to the situations at hand. Undoubtably, there would be pitfalls that would come from a potential short term substantial growth in the average life expectency in most developed nations. However, by and large, I think many of those pitfalls are able to be overcome.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

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    No, but I've seen a poster present a false dichotomy...
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Holy crap.

    I saw the title and I was not real impressed... I assumed they were just talking about creating a new organism from lab manufactured DNA - something that's kind already been done, and not surprising we can do.

    But the real story is amazing! The 'artificial' DNA has totally different bases - its completely foreign to actual life, and could potentially be an impressive step towards tons of stuff - I think drug delivery immediately - but potentially lots of other uses as well.

    This genetic engineering stuff will really change the world and the face of civilization forever in a century or so... if the science deniers allow our civilization to prosper long enough to make it that far.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well, to my understanding actual immortality would be next to impossible.

    There's just general every day risks that can occur, there's disease that's possible, etc. I'm mostly thinking about aging. And even then, from the little I've researched in it the thought is that at most you're realistically simply adding a a few extra decades onto life.

    As to "certain people would be allowed", no...but I'm not the utopian type that thinks everything should just be given to people. I can't imagine whatever efforts that occur in this regard is simply going to be the cost of a pack of gum at the local 7-11. To my understanding, even today, the life expectency in various countries widely differs. For example, average life expectency in the US is 5 years greater than that of China.

    That's no small thing mind you, but it's far from living forever.

    The birth rate has been dropping steadily in the United States at the very least. Less people are having kids, or are having kids at an older age. I would be shocked if such a trend didn't significantly continue if we managed to extend life by and extra 20 years. The life expectency in South Africa is 20 years less than China.

    I'm relatively confident about man's ability to adapt to their environment and to the situations at hand. Undoubtably, there would be pitfalls that would come from a potential short term substantial growth in the average life expectency in most developed nations. However, by and large, I think many of those pitfalls are able to be overcome.
    You can't prevent accidents or unexpected cataclysms sure. However you can realistically expect, given enough time to allow for technological advances, to prevent biological death caused by frailties in our form (cancer, neural degeneration, heart disease, etc) and infections/viruses. This would conceivably add thousands of years onto a lifespan assuming you didn't trip and fall on the sidewalk.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Imagine living 750 years on earth.

    Does that really sound good to you?

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I read about this a few weeks ago and saw a documentary about it... If I remember correctly the mystery DNA sequence is "E" or maybe "C" - either way it is still pretty interesting. EDIT: now that I think about it the mystery DNA is "X" or "Z"

    Either way - I don't know if breeding "mutant" organisms is a good idea considering some nefarious clown will realize eventually that this technology could potentially create biological weapons, that or mutate and create a disease/virus that we would have no understanding of and which could be potentially extremely lethal.

    I'm pro-science and pro-learning but sometimes curiosity kills the cat.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Imagine living 750 years on earth.

    Does that really sound good to you?
    That would be horrible.

    100 years is long enough for me. Not to mention I have met some centennials and they're more than happy with the opportunity to have lived for 100+ years - they're also very tired and aren't afraid to die.

    IMO, I think after 100 years these centennials have gained so much wisdom and learned so much that there is nothing left for them to do but to teach via philosophy.

    Besides, the world would get so flipping strange if people could live to 750.

    Staying 30 for a century would be extremely bizarre.

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