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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

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    It doesn't. They only "treat" people that have things you can't see, so you can say "your cancer is gone!" and no one is the wiser. But, if I am missing an arm, and they grow it back for me on stage, that would be an actual healing, except, it is never ever happened, because god hates amputees.
    I was thinking more subtle things - stuff that, if the patient believes, their body could actually help heal with the urging of their mind - kinda like the placebo effect?

    Growing an arm back I doubt anyone really believes could happen without some kind of science being involved (science fiction really, at this point), and besides, that's outside ( I think) the capabilities of the mind/body combo to work on. Thus far.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, it shouldn't. Science is what makes the world better, it actually does positive things.

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    Why? What is wrong with it?
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    Why? It's fascinating and could have potential benefits when it comes to creating biologics and research.

    It could come with disastrous side effects, used to create new diseases, bioweapons and all sorts of horrible ****.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I was thinking more subtle things - stuff that, if the patient believes, their body could actually help heal with the urging of their mind - kinda like the placebo effect?

    Growing an arm back I doubt anyone really believes could happen without some kind of science being involved (science fiction really, at this point), and besides, that's outside ( I think) the capabilities of the mind/body combo to work on. Thus far.
    But, the faith healers say that with god, everything is possible....with the exception of any thing real like growing back an arm.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    When asked to comment on the potential effects of this new bacteria a lab technician who worked on the project said "Brrrrraaaaaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnsssssss...."
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    But, the faith healers say that with god, everything is possible....with the exception of any thing real like growing back an arm.
    I don't give a damn what they say.

    I'm talking scientific testing of what they claim to be doing, in order to determine how it is accomplished, if any positive affects actually occur.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It could come with disastrous side effects, used to create new diseases, bioweapons and all sorts of horrible ****.
    The same could be said for a great deal of scientific advancement throughout the centuries

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I don't give a damn what they say.

    I'm talking scientific testing of what they claim to be doing, in order to determine how it is accomplished, if any positive affects actually occur.
    The problem is one of you is thinking with a questioning, scientific mind and the other with that of a fervent ideological zealot. Rarely do zealots and reasoned thinkers come to a similar conclusion

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It could come with disastrous side effects, used to create new diseases, bioweapons and all sorts of horrible ****.
    We already have the capacity to do that right now. If anything this tech would allow us to find more cures to diseases or at least find better ways to offer supportive care in diseases that have no known cure.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

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    We already have the capacity to do that right now. If anything this tech would allow us to find more cures to diseases or at least find better ways to offer supportive care in diseases that have no known cure.
    I would seriously do a little tap dance if they'd figure out in the next 25 to 50 years how to at least better combat cancer and how to get cells to not go into the stage of the aging process where I believe they start to break down.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I would seriously do a little tap dance if they'd figure out in the next 25 to 50 years how to at least better combat cancer and how to get cells to not go into the stage of the aging process where I believe they start to break down.
    The problem with cancer is that not any 2 cancers are the same. Sadly, there will never be a miracle cure to all cancers.

    However some of the innovation is amazing right now. I worked in a lab that published a paper regarding angiogenesis (the process by which new blood vessels form) formation in tumors and identifying new molecular pathways that cancer cells might use to signal for this. We've looked at anti-angiogenesis therapy before, but the problem is that there is more than 1 pathway to signal for blood vessel growth and we haven't recognized all of them yet or created the perfect drug cocktail that can effectively inhibit angiogenesis yet. The theory is that if we can stop angiogenesis we can halt or arrest solid tumor growth (not the same for non-solid tumor cancers). Adults don't really need additional blood vessel growth and in cancer tumors if they don't get that blood supply the tumor cannot grow beyond a small size of about 2mm I believe.

    What's also really cool is new therapies identifying sell surface proteins that differ from normal cells and developing vaccines around those proteins to inject into patients to help mass a larger immune response against cancers. There is also the possibility of using viruses to deliver chemo or infect only cancer cells. HIV works most often by binding to CD4+ cells that express that cell surface marker (primarily T-cells). In theory, we could run an assay on a cancer cell to find up-regulated or abnormal surface proteins and develop a virus that attaches only to that protein to infect only those cells and kill them in mass without having much systemic effects. If chemo is put into the virus it provides a convenient delivery system that doesn't pose all the risks that current systemic chemo has. This is all years down the line though with some of it being more theoretical. I do think in the next 25-50 years that we will have massive gains. One reason is we are beginning to look at cancers individually now with individual genetics instead of approaches treating each patient's cancer similarly as if there aren't many variations (like treating all leukemia the same or all breast cancers the same). I'll stop, because I could go on and on since this is my area of passion, but I do think exciting things are coming.
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