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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Unless I misunderstood, it sounded like they inserted the artificial DNA into a cell or cells in some way, then let it do it's thing for a bit - only the artificial DNA was a limited supply, and when it ran out the cells went back to using their normal DNA - I'm not sure how this might work, but...

    Perhaps a similar method might be used to apply a medicine, or change something temporarily - then when it runs out the host organism goes back to it's normal DNA...

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    Well, they substituted one base pair with a pair of unnatural bases, and let it run until the supply of those unnatural bases ran out. It is just a proof of principle that you can code real DNA with different base pairs.

    This opens up lots of possibilities- in my mind- one could even be substitution of R-amino acids, which is the first step to making 'mirror image' organisms- with all R-amino acids vs the naturally occurring L amino acids.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, they substituted one base pair with a pair of unnatural bases, and let it run until the supply of those unnatural bases ran out. It is just a proof of principle that you can code real DNA with different base pairs.

    This opens up lots of possibilities- in my mind- one could even be substitution of R-amino acids, which is the first step to making 'mirror image' organisms- with all R-amino acids vs the naturally occurring L amino acids.
    I'm wondering if they could use it to temporarily create an environment that stops cancer from growing...or something....of course that would require tuning the treatment to the specific patient, but that seems to be the way medicine is trending anyway...
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    No. It's quite simple. I'm just giving folks a heads up as to the degree of scientific literacy your comments hold.
    and the ad hominem to follow. your non-arguments are predictable.

    you start with a strawman then follow it up with an ad hominem and act like it means something.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm wondering if they could use it to temporarily create an environment that stops cancer from growing...or something....of course that would require tuning the treatment to the specific patient, but that seems to be the way medicine is trending anyway...
    You might find this interesting.

    http://www.wired.com/2010/11/ff_mirrorlife/
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    and the ad hominem to follow. your non-arguments are predictable.

    you start with a strawman then follow it up with an ad hominem and act like it means something.
    It meant something. I'm guessing most people that read it understood it quite well.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Absolutely, and mutations really aren't all that common (harmful ones) and in fact sometimes mutations occur due to adaptations needed to survive. For example the celts at one time around 60-70 generations ago had tiny amounts of iron in their diet so their body's compensated through a mutation that allowed for the body to code more codons to form proteins that increase absorption of iron.

    Mutations aren't all that bad, sometimes they're helpful (Although it is unfortunate that that mutation ha become harmful due to the ease of access to iron today, although at the same time it is much rarer, showing that the body understands how to adapt well to conditions).

    But of course experimentation as always, and safe experimentation at that.
    yes sometimes they can be helpful. in the majority of the time they are harmful or lethal.
    that is why this needs to be studied throughly before they start doing anything else.

    plus they would need to know what would happen if they actually put it in a live host. making it isolated is one thing injecting it into a live host is something else.
    that could have disasterous results.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    It meant something. I'm guessing most people that read it understood it quite well.
    last time i check fallacies were not arguments they were the sign of someone that can't carry an argument and are resorted to trying to debase someone to try and prove their point.
    it shows just how bad you are at a discussion is all that it shows. needless to say i won't respond to anymore of these off topic comments from you.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Read a book back in the late 60s that explained why not. I believe it was by Desmond Morris but I could be remembering that wrong. What really stuck with me over the years is the truth of it. The author's premise was that we had reached a point where technological change had outpaced our society's ability to cope with (live with). And that this gulf between tech and understanding of that tech would greatly widen in upcoming decades until a fracture point was reached or an extinction level disaster was created by the gulf.
    I think its more likely that this wont happen do to sheer happening. This will be engineered and plotted out. It will start with walled cities and end with technology = undefeatable sorcery to the uninitiated. Then eventually one of the "Gods" of the city will go rogue and share technology with all or earth, destroy all technology and reset, or destroy the earth.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yes sometimes they can be helpful. in the majority of the time they are harmful or lethal.
    that is why this needs to be studied throughly before they start doing anything else.

    plus they would need to know what would happen if they actually put it in a live host. making it isolated is one thing injecting it into a live host is something else.
    that could have disasterous results.
    Someone is probably going to bash me for this but why not experiment this on criminals convicted for things like mass murder and mass rape? Not like we need them anymore, perfect beings to test this on, think of it as hell for what they did in case hell doesn't exist
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Someone is probably going to bash me for this but why not experiment this on criminals convicted for things like mass murder and mass rape? Not like we need them anymore, perfect beings to test this on, think of it as hell for what they did in case hell doesn't exist
    yes because we want to create geneticly mutated murders and rapists.

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