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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    They didn't create an organism. They changed one base pair out of millions on an existing organism. And, to date, they still don't fully understand the effects or possibilities inherent in what they've been able to achieve.

    Don't get me wrong, this is an intriguing discovery and thank you for bringing it to our attention.

    I just don't want us to make more out of it than it is. You guys talking about being super humans are coming across rather silly.
    Whoever stated super human beings was being a little wishful, the first few posts really only talk in a serious manner about finding cures and such. There was also the biological immortality portion but that was more so wishful thinking and having a laugh.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Whoever stated super human beings was being a little wishful, the first few posts really only talk in a serious manner about finding cures and such. There was also the biological immortality portion but that was more so wishful thinking and having a laugh.
    Fair enough.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fair enough.

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    Yep, just wanted to make sure you knew the OP and most of the logical people agreed that what this was really meant to do was help for things like finding cures, improving lives, etc. Not making super-humans XD although the life expectancy will most definitely arise once they figure a way to exploit this mass of potential.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    It is the same topic- or at least a closely related one . It has to if with scientific literacy. You seem to be running a deficit, BTW.
    nope not even closely related but nice strawman which is typical from you.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Whoever stated super human beings was being a little wishful, the first few posts really only talk in a serious manner about finding cures and such. There was also the biological immortality portion but that was more so wishful thinking and having a laugh.
    the person that stated super humans was using it as a strawman to something else.

    in any event. i think they need to proceed with caution. dna can be unpredictable. more so if it starts mutating.

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't think you understood the article you linked. They didn't "create life."
    No, they just created artificial DNA.
    That's more complex than natural DNA.
    And it's in a cell.
    That's alive, as far as cells are ever alive...

    Edit: After reading the article more fully, it appears that the artificial DNA isn't an integral part of the cell in question? Not sure I fully understand.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the person that stated super humans was using it as a strawman to something else.

    in any event. i think they need to proceed with caution. dna can be unpredictable. more so if it starts mutating.
    Absolutely, and mutations really aren't all that common (harmful ones) and in fact sometimes mutations occur due to adaptations needed to survive. For example the celts at one time around 60-70 generations ago had tiny amounts of iron in their diet so their body's compensated through a mutation that allowed for the body to code more codons to form proteins that increase absorption of iron.

    Mutations aren't all that bad, sometimes they're helpful (Although it is unfortunate that that mutation ha become harmful due to the ease of access to iron today, although at the same time it is much rarer, showing that the body understands how to adapt well to conditions).

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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    nope not even closely related but nice strawman which is typical from you.
    No. It's quite simple. I'm just giving folks a heads up as to the degree of scientific literacy your comments hold.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    They didn't create an organism. They changed one base pair out of millions on an existing organism. And, to date, they still don't fully understand the effects or possibilities inherent in what they've been able to achieve.

    Don't get me wrong, this is an intriguing discovery and thank you for bringing it to our attention.

    I just don't want us to make more out of it than it is. You guys talking about being super humans are coming across rather silly.
    To be fair, they did the experiment with a single base pair so they could track replication easier and have a better controlled experiment.

    I see no inherent reason they can't substitute this foreign component into large chunks of material. I'd imagine it is currently useless, however....but the future goal will be to create a function for it.
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    Re: Scientists Create First Living Organism With 'Artificial' DNA

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    To be fair, they did the experiment with a single base pair so they could track replication easier and have a better controlled experiment.

    I see no inherent reason they can't substitute this foreign component into large chunks of material. I'd imagine it is currently useless, however....but the future goal will be to create a function for it.
    Unless I misunderstood, it sounded like they inserted the artificial DNA into a cell or cells in some way, then let it do it's thing for a bit - only the artificial DNA was a limited supply, and when it ran out the cells went back to using their normal DNA - I'm not sure how this might work, but...

    Perhaps a similar method might be used to apply a medicine, or change something temporarily - then when it runs out the host organism goes back to it's normal DNA...

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