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Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

Nope, that's not how it works. This winter, while the polar vortex was kicking ass up here, it was more than 120 degrees in Australia. Very simply, if you take the temperature on spots all over the earth and average them out, it is easy to see that the temperature of the globe has increased.

And, by the way, I DO live in a 95 percent black neighborhood. Nobody worries about getting drunk on Sonic vanilla shakes in my neighborhood. People here are a bit more sophisticated than that. They read a lot. Next time you are in Houston, I will buy myself a beer at the local bar. I'll get you a Sonic vanilla shake, and we can both get a buzz going. :mrgreen:
OMG it was HOT in the sun facing side and cold on the tilted away side? Someone call Barak and demand we stop the planets wobble!
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

No proof that it isn't even partially man made or is being altered by man? Bull**** sir.

I don't need a promotion to lecture you, you are neither my superior nor inferior, you're merely a peer, and nothing MORE. HA, promoted, give me a ****ing break you clown your nothing but another member.

Climate Change: Consensus

There, no one said it is man made, what I'm trying to convey to you is that humanity may be speeding up an already natural process which is bad because what happens naturally shouldn't be altered in such a way.
'no one' said it was man made? You sure about that? And humanity 'may' be speeding up an already natural process?
 
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If the alarmists were merely delusional and barked at the moon when the weather was nice enough, we could simply get a chuckle out of them and pity the poor deluded souls, but that isn't the case - the alarmists are outright dangerous, as is exemplefied by the their designs to use the aweful power of government to do real harm to society.

They are already largely responsible for the millions of deaths in the 3rd world - especially Africa, which is prevented from industrializing b/c the environmental movement is so adept at blocking progress for them. It's truly amazing the hypocrisy of these people - they ban DDT, killing millions, then go out and raise pennies for supposedly humanitarian causes... sponsor a child, and they show you a doe-eyed kid who is starving and dying of disease - what they never admit to is it is their disgusting policy efforts that lead to that starvation and disease.

Alarmists/supposed environmentalists... they're truly disgusting. If they had their way, we'd all be living like Africans - except them of course!! Al Gore needs to maintain his lifestyle so he can jet around the globe and keep us all safe from the ravages of capitalism ;)
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

If you are going to name call, then you can leave this thread.

You injected the bible into a scientific debate. You called on emotional responses for a logical discussion to further your point... because you had nothing else. And there's fault in my thinking?


Do you or don't you believe that the increased in CO2 is contributing to global warming? At some point the amount of an increase will be meaningless. The IMPC (or whatever it goes by) has to continuously revise (lowering) it's temperature precictions while still increasing CO2 concentrations, so this whole 10+ degree scare is possibly wrong. There is little to no temperature increase the past 10-15 years - with record CO2 emissions... humm. Law of diminishing returns.


We may, we may not. Maybe the alternative is an ice-age. That doesn't sound very good either. I'd rather be warm than cold.

I think the take home point is you could do more for the environment by turning off your computer and riding a bicycle, but I doubt you believe that it matters... yet somehow you think when i read your posts, it's going to make me want to change my behavior... hummm.

I response to the alternative ice age global climate change is what I've been stating not global warming so what was the point of that... And now that I think about it, I've stated global climate change this entire time and your argument is nothing but global warming being attacked on.

Maybe the CO2 blankets do not matter and the world begins to cool, it still doesn't make me any less truthful because that would be a rapid fluctuation in temperature which is global climate change.

Also the idea of me turning off everything and living the life of someone akin to an amish person is foolish. I have too much at stake to do so, plus it is not my decision, that lies with my parents. You have this aggressive way of debating in which you present your case as if you're right off the bat, foolish.

Yes, one will never die due to heat exhaustion, I made the claim that it will lead to death if untreated when my first statement was too vague for you. Then you just went on to say you will never die from heat exhaustion, which still like everything else doens't make my posts any less truthful.
 
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'no one' said it was man made? You sure about that? And humanity 'may' be speeding up an already natural process?

Yes, I personally believe humanity is speeding up a natural process to out of control rates but there is still doubt so I tend to play it safe with the may be.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

The ambassador was under attack all night long by organized terrorist, what secret?

Whatever the CIA had going on. There were a whole bunch of CIA people in Benghazi that night (and before).
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

'no one' said it was man made? You sure about that? And humanity 'may' be speeding up an already natural process?

It's possible. We don't really know.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

Yes, I personally believe humanity is speeding up a natural process to out of control rates but there is still doubt so I tend to play it safe with the may be.
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How? What is it that we do that speeds up this process?

And now that I think about it, I've stated global climate change this entire time and your argument is nothing but global warming being attacked on.
Climate change or climate shift is the new euphemism for global warming. If you choose to be vague, then don't get upset when I assume what you mean. If you are more direct then I don't have to assume. Write what you mean.

I have too much at stake to do so, plus it is not my decision, that lies with my parents.
Too much at stake to walk to school? turn off lights? Not wash your clothes every time you wear them? You refuse to make any sacrifices for the environment? Why should I take you seriously?

You have this aggressive way of debating in which you present your case as if you're right off the bat, foolish.
If you believed in what you wrote, maybe you would feel that way about your writing style. You don't know what you believe... it's a plethora of maybe's and what if's.

I made the claim that it will lead to death if untreated when my first statement was too vague for you. Then you just went on to say you will never die from heat exhaustion, which still like everything else doens't make my posts any less truthful.
Actually, that you can't admit that there was a mistake in your reasoning - begs the question of your intellectual honesty. That you can't admit after 3 posts that it was a mistake, or wrong information, or maybe their was something you didn't know and learned something new... This really does speak to who you are, and what you write here. It smells like you want to be heard and don't want to listen - which makes your posts more propaganda and less informative.

But I'm sure if I gave misinformation in my posts, that was clearly wrong - like burning gasoline has no effect on CO2 emissions... and continued to defend it by saying you took me out of context, or some other rationalization/minimization, you wouldn't think very highly of my thoughts either.
 
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Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

The American ambassador was killed during the attack. How long was the secret operation going to remain a secret?

So far, about 18 months. Have you ever asked one basic question: Why was the ambassador in Benghazi with a bunch of CIA operatives? The Embassy is in Tripoli.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

So far, about 18 months. Have you ever asked one basic question: Why was the ambassador in Benghazi with a bunch of CIA operatives? The Embassy is in Tripoli.

It's irrelevant.
 
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So far, about 18 months. Have you ever asked one basic question: Why was the ambassador in Benghazi with a bunch of CIA operatives? The Embassy is in Tripoli.

My theory is the prez had something to do with the attacks. This is a good read...

According to her, Barack Obama, wanting an “October Surprise,” had secretly arranged with the Muslim Brotherhood for a kidnapping of our ambassador. Then sometime in October before the election Obama was to orchestrate some great military action to rescue Ambassador Stevens, causing all of America to cheer Obama’s strong foreign policy and bravery and making him look like a hero. After all, his supposed killing of Osama Bin Laden bounce had long since faded. Thus, sweeping him to victory in November. Imagine the headlines and talking points. The election would be a lock. The Muslim Brotherhood has every reason to want Obama re-elected in November and have an American President sympathetic to their causes. Not to mention an administration filled with Muslim appeasers. Therefore, they agreed to aid in these theatrics. Unfortunately for Ambassador Stevens and three others, the Brotherhood could not control the hired thugs that were to perform the kidnapping and things escalated and four American lives were lost. Panic set in at the White House and with little time to place blame as far away from Obama as they could, they settled on a ridiculous fairy tale about an irrelevant video posted four months prior on YouTube and ran with it. Barack Obama even ran with it after evidence showed he knew better and ran with it all the way to his speech at the U.N.
Read more at Did Obama Stage Benghazi Attack?
 
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Nick didnt respond to you and say "YOU said". He said "Obama and Hillary said..." (cuz again...nothing personal, but why would Americans at large care what you or I said?). The president and Sec of State lied. They have covered up. They have ignored. Its an issue because the questions have never been answered. A lot of people want it to go away because they know the answers suck.

Why would Nick respond to an argument I didn't make? I know we're talking about a guy who usually debates the Liberals that only exist in his head, but still.

The GOP will stop paying attention when their guy is sitting in the WH in 2017. Sawyer and Nick and apdst will stop caring, because they'll be too busy making excuses for their guy. The GOP knows it was a CIA thing. They know that the Marines don't go jumping in to every black op gone horribly wrong. They just want a weapon against Hillary, and when she isn't the candidate they'll stop talking about it.
 
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It's irrelevant.

Benghazi was literally crawling with CIA, the ambassador was there for an unknown but probably connected reason. And it's irrelevant?

Jesus, even Tucker Carlson asked that question on Fox. But to you it's irrelevant?
 
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My theory is the prez had something to do with the attacks. This is a good read...

If any of that was true, the Marines would have been jumping in with guns a-blazing.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

Yes, I personally believe humanity is speeding up a natural process to out of control rates but there is still doubt so I tend to play it safe with the may be.
Its good that you have a 'faith' system I reckon.
 
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Benghazi was literally crawling with CIA, the ambassador was there for an unknown but probably connected reason. And it's irrelevant?

Jesus, even Tucker Carlson asked that question on Fox. But to you it's irrelevant?

It's irrelevant to the two indisputable facts:

1) The administration lied their asses off.

2) There was never any attempt to send relief.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

It's irrelevant to the two indisputable facts:

1) The administration lied their asses off.

2) There was never any attempt to send relief.

Actually, it's very relevant to both. You don't go around telling the truth about CIA stuff, and you don't send in the Marines when it all goes to ****.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

If any of that was true, the Marines would have been jumping in with guns a-blazing.

They cannot go into a country without orders, that's an invasion. Why were those orders not given?

The plan was for them to stand down and have an easy kidnapping.

Why else do you think the Amb was rapped/sodomized, killed then rapped/sodomized again, then dragged through the streets? You realize the CIA ops that were instructed to stand down took out 80 militants that were attacking what they were told would be a soft target.

You know Stevens was alive when captured?

They didn't stand down. call it adrenaline, anger, etc...

Kidnapping turned into murder... probably as the mob grew from the shootings. The for hire guys were out numbered/maybe killed by the others.
 
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Actually, it's very relevant to both. You don't go around telling the truth about CIA stuff, and you don't send in the Marines when it all goes to ****.

CIA hears chatter about an impending attack. Amb calls for more troops. Denied. CIA steps in and gives some help... They weren't supposed to be there. They weren't supposed to put up a fight.

It was supposed to be an October surprise for the election cycle.

Think about it.

There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.
Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.
Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”
Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.
Benghazi Timeline
 
Scientists are NOT always right!!!!





Former NASA scientist Dr. Roy Spencer says that climate models used by government agencies to create policies “have failed miserably.” Report: 95 percent of global warming models are wrong | The Daily Caller

Climate Scientist: 73 UN Climate Models Wrong, No Global Warming in 17 Years | CNS News


Yes, scientists are not always right, perhaps also including the ones you list that disagree with climate change.

A bunch of quotes that are often taken out of context means little. Also, people say wrong things all the time, it doesn't necessarily prove they or the institution they work for are incompetent. Of all the thousands of scientists that have studied climate change and related fields over the years, shouldn't we expect some of them would say things that are out of line, wrong, misguided, exaggerating, mistaken?

You take the entire body of work as a whole and you will see that the argument for climate change is very, very strong.
 
Why the **** are you guys talking about Benghazi?... good god. How can anyone take you seriously?
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

Bandwagon fallacy.

Unlike you, I understand the flawed methodology and recognize the fraudulent pseudoscience for what it is.

You can get a kazillion "scientists" to say 2 + 2 =5 and you still will not convince me that it is so. I am too intelligent to fall for that crap.

No. You have it confused. Not because it is popular, but because those who are actual experts have spoken. It's best evidence.
 
Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

Experts, or not, they have zero evidence that the changes in the climate are anything more than a natural process.

Only if you ignore the experts, the evidence, and the science.
 
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