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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one said anything about Gods, so please refrain from excessive hyperbole. And I'm not asking anyone to look at the politics. The science is accepted among scientists. And overwhelmingly so. So, you can throw up false conclusions of what you think it means, but at the end of the day, this is in the domain of science. So, your misreadings, false conclusions, and talking head diversions mean nothing next to the fact that this is the view of science.
    If global warming is as certain as you claim, then why has the research been falsified by some of those same climate scientists?
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes, you did:






    That's a joke, right?
    Climate change IS natural - there is no disputing that.. Do you believe the climate didn't change before humans walked the earth? - if you want to believe that you may as well deny evolution next considering "climate change" played a significant role in the evolution of species.

    I also pointed out that man has probably played some role in climate change or climate anomalies, however the role we do play isn't significant enough to warrant this nefarious hysteria.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Climate change IS natural - there is no disputing that.. Do you believe the climate didn't change before humans walked the earth? - if you want to believe that you may as well deny evolution next considering "climate change" played a significant role in the evolution of species.
    I claim that man is contributing to a natural phenomena.

    I also pointed out that man has probably played some role in climate change or climate anomalies, however the role we do play isn't significant enough to warrant this nefarious hysteria.
    I think it is significant. I'd say 10-50% of climate change is anthropogenic. You put man's contribution under 5%?

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    I ask you to read the report.

    I ask you to take notice of the actual numbers they come up with.

    I think that if you do you will then consider that the headlines that are generated by the IPCC bandwagon are way beyond what the numbers say.
    I've done that, as well as discussing them with actual scientists. They tell me they are quite correct. So, I've investigated, read, considered. What have you done again?

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If global warming is as certain as you claim, then why has the research been falsified by some of those same climate scientists?
    It hasn't been. That was another misreading and over hyped fad you guys went through.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Also, does anyone here know what percentage of our atmosphere is made up of carbon? .03% presently.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I claim that man is contributing to a natural phenomena.

    I think it is significant. I'd say 10-50% of climate change is anthropogenic. You put man's contribution under 5%?

    I'd put human contribution due to CO2 at under 10% although the effects of human activity at a local level are very often much more than that.

    North Africa is a desert mostly due to human activity. Well, the activity of all the goats and camels that humans over graze the land with.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've read a good deal, but I'm not a scientist. I can read a medical report as well, but I'm not a doctor. Thinking that you can ignore evidence from those who know more than you is arrogance.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've done that, as well as discussing them with actual scientists. They tell me they are quite correct. So, I've investigated, read, considered. What have you done again?
    Well, I have read bits of the report and tried to work out where their numbers come from and used their numbers.

    I don't find a 3 feet sea level rise by 2100 scary. I don't find a 3 degree c warming by 2100 scary. So I'm of the opinion that we should invest in research into solar power and stuff but not panic and build wind farms that don't really work. I think we have lots of time to deploy new technologies which we don't actually have at present. Let's wait 'till 2030 before we decide what we need to do about it.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It hasn't been. That was another misreading and over hyped fad you guys went through.
    YES IT HAS BEEN AND THESE CLOWNS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT RED HANDED FLUBBING DATA NUMEROUS TIMES.

    It even goes beyond that - these assclowns have been caught on tape basically claiming their data was manipulated and epic bull****.

    Also, if these propagandists were so damn sure about their science then why are they so quick to dismiss and smash their fellow colleagues who disagree with their propaganda?

    These global warming nuts only use 5-10 year sample sizes to support their theories as proof of AGW.... Why 5-10 years and not the 150 or so years of documented climate data or to expand even further geological data? because the long term data proves that AGW is absolute bull****.

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