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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    "Climate change" is nothing more than a natural phenomena that progressive socialists have hijacked to use as a tool to manifest totalitarian governments and force global socialism and wealth redistribution on all individuals and nations.
    Claiming climate change is 100% human caused, or 0% human caused, is clear partisan hackage. Any honest thinking person can see it's a combination.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's don't pretend that scientists are gods and above question.

    "Global warming", is a classic case of science becoming politicized.

    You know something is amiss, when climate scientists have to falsify the evidence to achieve the desired conclusion.
    No one said anything about Gods, so please refrain from excessive hyperbole. And I'm not asking anyone to look at the politics. The science is accepted among scientists. And overwhelmingly so. So, you can throw up false conclusions of what you think it means, but at the end of the day, this is in the domain of science. So, your misreadings, false conclusions, and talking head diversions mean nothing next to the fact that this is the view of science.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's don't pretend that scientists are gods and above question.

    "Global warming", is a classic case of science becoming politicized.

    You know something is amiss, when climate scientists have to falsify the evidence to achieve the desired conclusion.
    Well, the fundamental problem with these so called "climate scientists" is that they're bought and paid for by governments via grants - so they have no choice but to spew AGW nonsense because if they don't those grants will go bye-bye and these "climate scientists" will lose their funding hence their job.

    It's funny how the strong majority of independent climate scientists disagree that global warming is caused by man (or that man plays little role in climate change) yet the so called quacks being employed by government are certain man is responsible (as if the climate didn't change before man)...

    The worst part is that these scientists are knowingly being deceptive for monetary or political reasons or they're just downright stupid or pretend to agree because it may cost them their job and their standing within the scientific community.

    Real scientists shouldn't be scared to publish their findings even if their findings/research and theories contradict what is "commonly accepted" at the time. Of course tho when it comes to this debate any scientist who disagrees with AGW is smashed like a bug for going against the grain.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    When I need my car fixed, I see a mechanic. When I'm ill or injured I see a doctor. There is nothing wrong with admitting you can't be an expert in everything. The first step to wisdom, after all, isn't I know everything. What science tells us is the best information we have. Try paying some attention to it. Just a thought.
    Are you capable of reading a scientific paper?

    Are you capable of reading something like the IPCC's 5th report?

    If the answer is yes, and you value your liberty, you should read some of the science before making a strong decision on this. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Claiming climate change is 100% human caused, or 0% human caused, is clear partisan hackage. Any honest thinking person can see it's a combination.
    I never claimed man doesn't play a role, however mans role isn't as significant as portrayed by government or the quacks in the scientific community.

    The problem is that all these global warming nuts pretend that man is the direct cause of climate change when in reality that is epic bull****.

    Furthermore there is little or no evidence to even suggest man has played a significant role on the environment.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    "Global warming" has made Al Gore an insanely rich man.
    Exactly. But to live as he preaches he would suddenly run out of things he could buy in good conscience.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I never claimed man doesn't play a role,
    Yes, you did:

    "Climate change" is nothing more than a natural phenomena

    Furthermore there is little or no evidence to even suggest man has played a significant role on the environment.
    That's a joke, right?

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Are you capable of reading a scientific paper?

    Are you capable of reading something like the IPCC's 5th report?

    If the answer is yes, and you value your liberty, you should read some of the science before making a strong decision on this. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
    I've read a good deal, but I'm not a scientist. I can read a medical report as well, but I'm not a doctor. Thinking that you can ignore evidence from those who know more than you is arrogance.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Given this administration stellar record of transparency and honesty, tell me why I should believe them now.

    If I did believe it, given this administration stellar ability to fail, tell me why should I trust their ability to solve......anything.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Are you capable of reading a scientific paper?

    Are you capable of reading something like the IPCC's 5th report?

    If the answer is yes, and you value your liberty, you should read some of the science before making a strong decision on this. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've read a good deal, but I'm not a scientist. I can read a medical report as well, but I'm not a doctor. Thinking that you can ignore evidence from those who know more than you is arrogance.
    I ask you to read the report.

    I ask you to take notice of the actual numbers they come up with.

    I think that if you do you will then consider that the headlines that are generated by the IPCC bandwagon are way beyond what the numbers say.

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