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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Here is what I don't understand. You guys love science when it gives you the here and now, but when it apparently is somehow ruining your day you don't want to hear about it. Climate change denying to me is like denying the idea that TVs are flat now and we can view the internet on our phones. I wonder if kerosene industry tried to deny the idea of electricity and light bulbs when they came about just because it would make things harder on them? Maybe people got mad when their taxes went up to put light posts up? Who knows? I do know though the quicker we incentivize making things cleaner for the naysayers, the quicker this problem will begin to be fixed.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    facts notwithstanding....Of course.
    You don't have any facts - what you have are a bunch of bull**** models simulated by computers programed with data - data which exists only to show one hypothesis.

    This snake oil salesmen aren't "scientists" they're alarmists paid for via grant by the federal government to scare people into forking over more money, then allowing the government to regulate the **** out of all business and industry.....

    It seems like a good plan for a communist or communist sympathizers -- tell everyone they're going to die unless we allow government to regulate everything and tax the **** out of people.......

    Besides, just out of curiosity how the hell does regulating the **** out of every industry and taxing the **** out of people help "climate change?"

    Furthermore in what universe do you actually believe you can control climate anyways???? what are you going to do stop volcanoes, tornadoes, hurricanes???? - NO you're not and you can't and quite frankly you - and you people - are doing more damage to the environment by hindering the Earths natural process than man has since the industrial revolution.

    Oh and I have evidence -- go take a look at all these AGW alarmists predictions from the 70's and 80's - that pretty much sums up how full of **** and political they actually are.. Also, why you're at it why don't you go investigate who these "scientists" actually are and what organizations they belong to. They're partisan treehuggers rejected by green peace for being too ****ing radical.

    Oh and if you want more evidence - we're not living in ****ing water world like all these asshat pseudo-scientists predicted in the 80's.

    The only reason why you fall for this **** is because it is part of your political party culture - the idea that humanity is evil.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Here is what I don't understand. You guys love science when it gives you the here and now, but when it apparently is somehow ruining your day you don't want to hear about it. Climate change denying to me is like denying the idea that TVs are flat now and we can view the internet on our phones. I wonder if kerosene industry tried to deny the idea of electricity and light bulbs when they came about just because it would make things harder on them? Maybe people got mad when their taxes went up to put light posts up? Who knows? I do know though the quicker we incentivize making things cleaner for the naysayers, the quicker this problem will begin to be fixed.
    There is a difference between "climate change" and denying that humans play a role in "climate change" however it seems like progressives love to mash the two together and paint anyone who disagrees with AGW (anthropological global warming) as a "climate change" denier....

    This just goes to show how full of **** the AGW believers are - they even have to lie to perpetuate this bull****.

    Here is a shocker to all - the climate - at least a climate that can breed life has been changing for the past 3.5 billion years.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    There is a difference between "climate change" and denying that humans play a role in "climate change" however it seems like progressives love to mash the two together and paint anyone who disagrees with AGW (anthropological global warming) as a "climate change" denier....

    This just goes to show how full of **** the AGW believers are - they even have to lie to perpetuate this bull****.

    Here is a shocker to all - the climate - at least a climate that can breed life has been changing for the past 3.5 billion years.
    yes, we all know that change, but not what we're talking about when referring to someone as a denier.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Scientists and engineers absolutely hate to be wrong. I mean they HATE to be wrong. Admitting an error, especially to us peasants, is akin to being burned at the stake in gasoline. It ain't gonna happen, especially with all the personal gain that's in it for them.

    They will take these hopeful theories on AGW to their freaking graves. Never will they admit they're wrong til the day they die.

    And Democrats don't give a crap whether it's right or wrong. It's a regal new way to siphon money and power from its pesky citizenry.
    Of course they hate to be wrong - I have several that are aunts and uncles and they're the most narrow minded morons I know. They also hate debating me on this issue because I destroy them every time.

    This AGW bull**** is all about politics and money...

    Half of these alarmists wouldn't even have jobs if they weren't shoving AGW down the publics throats..

    Man cannot cause global warming - global warming or "climate change" (it can go in either direction) - that is a fact, however it is certainly a good way to scare people into an Orwellian society...

    The funny part is that their computer models have be so drastically wrong - yet people still listen....

    Like I said in a previous post - this has little to do about environment and everything to do about politics and ideals.

    I think it was Rahm Emmanuel who said: "never waste a tragedy" - well that applies here - instead of a tragedy we have hysteria.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    yes, we all know that change, but not what we're talking about when referring to someone as a denier.
    No one denies the climate doesn't change - ZERO - NO ONE...

    "Do you believe in climate change" is a trick question because what progressives imply is AGW and every non-progressive knows this.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    There is a difference between "climate change" and denying that humans play a role in "climate change" however it seems like progressives love to mash the two together and paint anyone who disagrees with AGW (anthropological global warming) as a "climate change" denier....

    This just goes to show how full of **** the AGW believers are - they even have to lie to perpetuate this bull****.

    Here is a shocker to all - the climate - at least a climate that can breed life has been changing for the past 3.5 billion years.
    Let's take out of the equation the effects on the planet. **** the planet. Honestly, I won't be around when the effects really come through and it isn't just crazy weather so let's look at what we can do that benefits you and I right now. We aren't so different. What if we had roads that had solar panels in them that did a bunch of badass ****?



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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    It's us human beings, who destroy the world that we live in. But when we face danger then we say very big words....

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No one denies the climate doesn't change - ZERO - NO ONE...

    "Do you believe in climate change" is a trick question because what progressives imply is AGW and every non-progressive knows this.
    Again, context matters. When talking about climate change you know we're talking about AGW. No one I know is confused by this.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    None of that proves anything, and I highly doubt that graph is even accurate.

    What you're doing is taking 50 years of climate data and drawing a conclusion out of it all the while ignoring the fact that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and has hosted life for the last 3.5 billion years...

    Do you not see the problem cherry picking bull****??

    So what if the Earth is warming???? we are after all coming off a ****ing ice age...

    To make it even more strange the polar ice caps are growing - which means we could potentially be going back into an ice age.

    I mean you do realize where Chicago is now there was a mile high sheet of ice? I mean it only carved out the Great Lakes and moved gigantic bolders thousands of miles. Every time you see a huge bolder in the middle of no where did you ever stop to think how that rock got there? do you think it just grew there like grass or a flower?

    Go up to Devils Lake Wisconsin for more proof of what I'm talking about.
    Thanks for the high school geology lesson.

    Your grasp of science is quite clear.
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