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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    What your missing is that the mass dilusion is the climate change deniers. The facts are in and are obvious. It is happening and it is excelerating. These are observable facts right now.

    You 'climate doomsday' people crack me up....You really don't read the news, or keep up with the latest do you? I mean, the IPCC having egg on their face from the snake oil salesman Gore and his predictions that Orlando would be under water by now had to scale back their alarmist rhetoric....

    DailyTech - After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast

    I guess that wasn't in the homily at the Church of the perpetual doom eh?
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    The original IPCC predictions were too high, and they are scaling them back.

    Relative to the average from year 1850 to 1900,
    global surface temperature change by the end of the 21st century is projected to
    likely exceed 1.5C for RCP4.5, RCP6.0 and RCP8.5 (high confidence). (90100%)
    Warming is likely to exceed 2C forRCP6.0 and RCP8.5 (high confidence), (66100%)
    more likely than not to exceed 2C for RCP4.5 (high confidence), ( >50100%)
    but unlikely to exceed 2C for RCP2.6 (medium confidence). (033%)
    unlikely to exceed 4C for RCP2.6, RCP4.5 and RCP6.0 (highconfidence)( 033%)
    and is about as likely as not to exceed 4C for RCP8.5 (3366%)

    The 4.5 C seems to have fallen out of consideration,
    and they seem to have moved the mid range from 3 C, down to a little above 2 C.
    If the trend continues, by the next report, their predictions should be reflective of the data.
    It wont be alarming, but at least it will be accurate.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You 'climate doomsday' people crack me up....You really don't read the news, or keep up with the latest do you? I mean, the IPCC having egg on their face from the snake oil salesman Gore and his predictions that Orlando would be under water by now had to scale back their alarmist rhetoric....

    DailyTech - After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast

    I guess that wasn't in the homily at the Church of the perpetual doom eh?
    The second anyone reads something like the first sentence I highlighted, he or she knows the source is not to be taken seriously.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The second anyone reads something like the first sentence I highlighted, he or she knows the source is not to be taken seriously.

    Would that you would take any post that doesn't agree with your arrogant proclamations 'seriously' in the first place is amusing....Are you trying to bring levity to the morning cup of coffee this morning?
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Would that you would take any post that doesn't agree with your arrogant proclamations 'seriously' in the first place is amusing....Are you trying to bring levity to the morning cup of coffee this morning?
    Absolutely, but not one that starts out saying I'm going to be silly and try to reason at all. And I always enjoy a good laugh with my coffee in the morning.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Absolutely, but not one that starts out saying I'm going to be silly and try to reason at all. And I always enjoy a good laugh with my coffee in the morning.
    Oh ok, well here you go....http://www.debatepolitics.com/search...archid=3546478 Just start at the top and read on, I am sure there is some real comedy gold in there....
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh ok, well here you go....http://www.debatepolitics.com/search...archid=3546478 Just start at the top and read on, I am sure there is some real comedy gold in there....
    Well, your link didn't give me anything. But I'll check in late to how many yucks I can get. Have a good day j.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're looking to people who couldn't manage Benghazi, the Mexican border, VA hospitals, or balance a budget, to somehow manage to control the climate?
    You don't get it, do you? The worldwide climate is not something that can be "managed", much less "controlled". You - like so many conservatives - are simply unable to see past your politics. AGW isn't about politics - it's about our worldwide climate, and human civilization's effect on that climate. This isn't politics - it's SCIENCE.

    I can just imagine what the Right would be saying today if we were just now seeing the hole in the ozone layer caused by CFC's: "The scientists and the Left are using baseless claims about some kind of hole in the ozone layer to try to destroy free trade and capitalism! They can't even prove that it's CFC's that are destroying the ozone layer, and they can't prove that it's not a natural process!"

    At that time, fortunately, conservatives listened to scientists when they pointed out problems that could affect us all. But today, Fox News would be leading the charge to "prove" how the hole in the ozone layer was just another left-wing conspiracy....
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You 'climate doomsday' people crack me up....You really don't read the news, or keep up with the latest do you? I mean, the IPCC having egg on their face from the snake oil salesman Gore and his predictions that Orlando would be under water by now had to scale back their alarmist rhetoric....

    DailyTech - After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast

    I guess that wasn't in the homily at the Church of the perpetual doom eh?
    You're only a doom-sayer if the facts are not in. These facts are in. Climate change IS happening and it is excellerating. What is sad is the deniers, for political or egocentric purposes, will not relent to the facts that are in front of their face. If a car is speading toward a large crowd you would claim the person warning people to get out of the way is a doom-sayer. The car is heading toward us. You only look sillier and sillier denying it.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You don't get it, do you? The worldwide climate is not something that can be "managed", much less "controlled".
    Then why are the alarmists so desperate to shut down anything that produces co2? They claim it's to stop global climate (change, warming, cooling, disruption... Whichever fits the catch phrase of the day)

    You - like so many conservatives - are simply unable to see past your politics. AGW isn't about politics - it's about our worldwide climate, and human civilization's effect on that climate. This isn't politics - it's SCIENCE.
    Yes, there is science, then the findings get overblown, turned into an alarm that results in a call to action. The scientists send reports to policy makers... In this case, there is no significant separation between the science and the political objectives that are formed in the wake of the science. (In case I was not clear, the science is overblown, there's not too much about co2's impacts that has been written that was not later determined to be either an exaggeration, a manipulation of the data, or outright fabrications with no basis in reality.

    Not my fault the climate priests are corrupt as they get, if the situation were so dire, you would not need to look to snake oil salesman to represent the position.

    I can just imagine what the Right would be saying today if we were just now seeing the hole in the ozone layer caused by CFC's: "The scientists and the Left are using baseless claims about some kind of hole in the ozone layer to try to destroy free trade and capitalism! They can't even prove that it's CFC's that are destroying the ozone layer, and they can't prove that it's not a natural process!"
    Well, cfc's actually had a measurable causative impact on the environment... The part you DONT know is that going after CFCS was to protect business, since the patents were on their way out, so an alternative was made, and this prevented any new companies from using CFCs (not a good idea regardless) to develop their own products that would be in competition.

    At that time, fortunately, conservatives listened to scientists when they pointed out problems that could affect us all. But today, Fox News would be leading the charge to "prove" how the hole in the ozone layer was just another left-wing conspiracy....
    Some people just won't follow disreputable people.

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