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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was neither said nor suggested. Why not respond to the post rather than asking stupid questions?
    What was suggested was either if can't control everyone do nothing, or we control them, which would require invasion. China has all the lack of regulations you want. Right?

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What was suggested was either if can't control everyone do nothing, or we control them, which would require invasion. China has all the lack of regulations you want. Right?
    Nothing was 'suggested'.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Nothing was 'suggested'.
    It's the logical conclusion. Otherwise, it says nothing at all. A waste of bandwidth.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Climate change is real a few months ago it was cold now it is not so cold. just proves that climate is changing.
    Damn, you're right!! In fact a friend of mine in Australia said the same thing happened there but in reverse. It's hemispheric changing!

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's the logical conclusion. Otherwise, it says nothing at all. A waste of bandwidth.
    It's your conclusion, perhaps, but don't plead logic!

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's your conclusion, perhaps, but don't plead logic!
    No, it's logic, as I said.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Pretty silly argument you got there, but are suggesting we invade China?
    No, that's your fantasy, don't lay that on him. He never suggested any such thing.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your first link is incorrect so didn't bother with the second. Believe what you want but don't expect others to pay for your beliefs.
    Feel free to explain why the first point is incorrect.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The ice cap is growing. You know that, right?

    Here in Louisiana it snowed three times this winter.

    Hell, I'll be glad when global warming kicks in! LOL!!
    Yeah well Here in Wisconsin it was 100+ degrees for a week straight .. we had our hottest summer on record.

    I think I will trust NASA's satellites over whatever source you got your information from.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Yeah well Here in Wisconsin it was 100+ degrees for a week straight .. we had our hottest summer on record.

    I think I will trust NASA's satellites over whatever source you got your information from.

    Arctic Sea Ice Minimum in 2013 is Sixth Lowest on Record | NASA
    I think you're being more than a little disingenuous here....BTW, so is NASA.....

    "Since reaching its annual maximum extent on March 21, Arctic sea ice extent has declined somewhat unevenly, but has consistently been well below its average 1981 to 2010 extent. While the rate of Arctic-wide retreat was rapid through the first half of April, it has subsequently slowed down. However, ice breakup was quite early in the Bering Sea, presenting difficulties for gold dredging operations and seal hunters in the region. In the Antarctic, sea ice continued to reach record high extents."

    Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

    So the rate of melt was higher in early April, and slowed down, because the temp according to your own article says:

    "This year, Arctic temperatures were 1.8 to 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit (1 to 2.5 degrees Celsius) lower than average, according to NASA's Modern Era Retrospective analysis for Research and Applications, a merging of observations and a modeled forecast. The colder temperatures were in part due to a series of summer cyclones. In August 2012, a big storm caused havoc on the Arctic Ocean’s icy cover, but this summer’s cyclones have had the opposite effect: under cloudier conditions, surface winds spread the ice over a larger area."

    So, NASA is using a "model" and changing what actually happened which is an expansion, not a decrease as they would mislead you to believe...And AGW zealots buy right into it without question....
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