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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Well, I have read bits of the report and tried to work out where their numbers come from and used their numbers.

    I don't find a 3 feet sea level rise by 2100 scary. I don't find a 3 degree c warming by 2100 scary. So I'm of the opinion that we should invest in research into solar power and stuff but not panic and build wind farms that don't really work. I think we have lots of time to deploy new technologies which we don't actually have at present. Let's wait 'till 2030 before we decide what we need to do about it.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Its not just sea levels that are the only concern. Current floews are a major concern too.
    Could you try to find any scientific paper which implies that the North Atlantic drift (There is no other possible one which you are almost talking about) is anything other than wind driven.

    I'll give you a clue; you won't.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is no consensus. None.

    The IPCC has been proven to be dishonest.
    East Anglia emails show what type of "scientists" we are dealing with. Dishonest and thug-like in their attempts to halt science. Like the following...

    From: Phil Jones. To: Many. Nov 16, 1999
    "I've just completed Mike's Nature [the science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

    Critics cite this as evidence that data was manipulated to mask the fact that global temperatures are falling. Prof Jones claims the meaning of "trick" has been misinterpreted


    From Phil Jones To: Michael Mann (Pennsylvania State University). July 8, 2004
    "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    I really haven’t paid all that much attention to this climate change debate, I hear about this or that and move on with my daily life. Why worry, I can control the weather. Then I hear my electric bill will be going up because of new regulations on coal, that makes me mad. The price of gas has been going up since spring with this dumb summer blend and all those stupid additives, that makes me mad. Stop with all this stupid stuff on cars, your dumb regulations have me paying $25,000.00 for a car that should only cost me $20.000.00. Your costing me money. You want to do something about climate change, fine, you do it. Only leave my wallet alone!
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Missed AB View Post
    The error in this thinking is as you state a greenhouse gas.
    Read above, it is not linear.
    I can go with the IPCC's number of 1.2 C for each doubling.
    Not linear.

    The thought that you can somehow control the environment to this extent is amazing.

    here's a question, what happens if the sun tosses out a few extra micro bursts every day? Does it matter how much C02 is in the atmosphere?
    Or if it doesn't put out as much energy for whatever reason? Does the CO2 somehow compensate for this?


    100 years ago how was the sun's energy output measured? If you can't answer this question, then there is NO way you can calculate the CO2's effect.

    How do you measure direct CO2 temperatutre increases? HOW DOES CO2 RAISE THE TEMPERATURE? It's no some magical exothermic reaction in the atmosphere. It's a blanket. ALL THE HEAT/ENERGY COMES FROM THE SUN!
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    Way to misread something.
    First I am not arguing in support of AGW, the extreme predictions are ridiculous.
    By placing the lower end of the prediction within the natural curve, they will likely hit their target.
    (this really is like you cannot fall off the floor.)
    I am trying to add some Science to the discussion, By stipulating to the IPCC's
    direct response of CO2 of 1.2 C for each doubling, I am showing how the upper ranges of the predictions
    and not plausible even with their own numbers.
    FYI, a 1.2 C for each doubling is not a linear response, but about a 4 log decaying response.
    140 to 280 1.2 c
    280 to 560 1.2 c
    560 to 1120 1.2 c... ect

    You are correct in that CO2 cannot add energy, it can slow down it's departure.
    Spontaneous decay of an excited CO2 molecule to ground state can be up to 50 ms.
    The departing decay photons, are completely random, and some go back to earth.
    I don't think we understand how the greenhouse gas process works, but the Physics
    supports the observations.
    Those observations are by no means alarming.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I really haven’t paid all that much attention to this climate change debate, I hear about this or that and move on with my daily life. Why worry, I can control the weather. Then I hear my electric bill will be going up because of new regulations on coal, that makes me mad. The price of gas has been going up since spring with this dumb summer blend and all those stupid additives, that makes me mad. Stop with all this stupid stuff on cars, your dumb regulations have me paying $25,000.00 for a car that should only cost me $20.000.00. Your costing me money. You want to do something about climate change, fine, you do it. Only leave my wallet alone!
    And sadly this is what it is all about...Aside from the highly technical discussions that talk of 'excited molecules' and 'molecular attachment', what we have in the end is government controlling business, and massive redistribution through hidden taxation schemes that would, should land these scum bags in jail...So far all they are succeeding at is destroying this country.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And sadly this is what it is all about...Aside from the highly technical discussions that talk of 'excited molecules' and 'molecular attachment', what we have in the end is government controlling business, and massive redistribution through hidden taxation schemes that would, should land these scum bags in jail...So far all they are succeeding at is destroying this country.
    We have often heard the liberals say, "never let a crisis go to waste".
    We should also not let the liberal artificial AGW crisis go to waste.
    In the US we do not manufacturer much any more, but that is how wealth is created.
    At some point oil will become more difficult and expensive to extract.
    By building out new Nuclear and solar capacity now, The US can be an exporter of
    man made hydrocarbon fuels for the next several hundred years.
    The added bonus, is we can sell it to the concerned world as carbon neutral.
    There is no reason the political right cannot take advantage of a fake crisis generated by the Left.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is a theory, a credible one, which says that, after so much global warming, more clouds are in the sky, reflecting more of the sun's light back into space, thus tapering the effects of global warming. The theory is credible, but also supports the weather changing drastically all around the world, which we are seeing. According to this theory, while natural forces may self-correct what man does to the Earth, there is still going to be hell to pay. This theory may account for the sudden temporary growing of ice caps, after shrinking for many years. Whether this temporary growing of the ice caps becomes permanent is still unknown, but the radical shifts in both weather and climate all over the world are going to become even more radical. So, while global warming is backed by all the scientific evidence, the term "climate change" is more appropriate.
    Even the IPCC report agrees there has been no global warming recently. In fact, there has been none for the past 15 years.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says



    Obama said he would slow the sea rise and it's down to 7 inches per century.

    Good job Barry! You moron.
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And sadly this is what it is all about...Aside from the highly technical discussions that talk of 'excited molecules' and 'molecular attachment', what we have in the end is government controlling business, and massive redistribution through hidden taxation schemes that would, should land these scum bags in jail...So far all they are succeeding at is destroying this country.
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