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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says[W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post

    I'd put human contribution due to CO2 at under 10% although the effects of human activity at a local level are very often much more than that.

    North Africa is a desert mostly due to human activity. Well, the activity of all the goats and camels that humans over graze the land with.
    That is impossible considering our atmosphere is comprised of .03% carbon.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's fun how many people actually believe this.



    The part I outlined in red? That's the dataset that has somehow managed to convince you ice caps are growing. Meanwhile, the rest of us are looking at a whole chart.
    The whole chart is such a brief period of time that it is absolutely meaningless.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    As a typical warmist you obviously don't actually like the idea of doing the science thinking for yourself.

    The land ice is all that mattes. The floating stuff will never cause any sea level change.

    The land ice is growing in Antarctica and the data for the Greenland stuff is highly questionable. If it is melting (overall) at all it's doing it exceptionally slowly. The IPCC's worst case scenario has a contribution of 9cm to sea level rise from Greenland's ice.

    The world's climate has not warmed for 15 to 17 years. How long will this not warming have to happen for you to think that the hypothesis of AGW might be wrong?

    If it gets colder for the next 5 years will you then admit that it was all a load of bull?

    At what point will you think that it's shown to be wrong? That's a science type question.


    Thank you.

    In ten years this is the first time on a forum that anyone has shown an understanding of sea ice.

    Now if we could get the scientific community to understand the difference between a glacier and a semi-permanent or permanent ice field, we would all be much better off. Living two hour's drive from a glacier and having dived them along the coast, I am sick of people from countries that have none telling us how we have to re-invent out economy to fix a problem that has been part of nature for as long as man has living in these mountains at least.

    Does anyone want to see evidence of a glacier that's growing?
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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Were there WMD in Iraq?
    Actually, yes there were. And maybe still are.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It hasn't been. That was another misreading and over hyped fad you guys went through.
    Yes, the evidence has been faked...

    Leaked climate change emails scientist 'hid' data flaws | Environment | The Guardian
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Actually, yes there were. And maybe still are.
    I know that, but I was trying to prove a point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It hasn't been. That was another misreading and over hyped fad you guys went through.
    Bullcrap. They were caught red handed. Stone cold busted.

    Those of us who are not brainwashed fools see that very clearly.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Were there WMD in Iraq?

    I've never been a fan of Bush, but I believe in 100 years or so some dude riding a camel through the desert in Iraq will fall into a hole/bunker and find an epic stockpile of WMD's.

    Arabs love to bury **** - they've been hiding stuff under the sand for the last 6 thousand years.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I've never been a fan of Bush, but I believe in 100 years or so some dude riding a camel through the desert in Iraq will fall into a hole/bunker and find an epic stockpile of WMD's.

    Arabs love to bury **** - they've been hiding stuff under the sand for the last 6 thousand years.
    They'll be found in Syria, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate change is here and action needed now, new White House report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well, the fundamental problem with these so called "climate scientists" is that they're bought and paid for by governments via grants - so they have no choice but to spew AGW nonsense because if they don't those grants will go bye-bye and these "climate scientists" will lose their funding hence their job.

    It's funny how the strong majority of independent climate scientists disagree that global warming is caused by man (or that man plays little role in climate change) yet the so called quacks being employed by government are certain man is responsible (as if the climate didn't change before man)...

    The worst part is that these scientists are knowingly being deceptive for monetary or political reasons or they're just downright stupid or pretend to agree because it may cost them their job and their standing within the scientific community.

    Real scientists shouldn't be scared to publish their findings even if their findings/research and theories contradict what is "commonly accepted" at the time. Of course tho when it comes to this debate any scientist who disagrees with AGW is smashed like a bug for going against the grain.
    And that's the long and the short of the issue.

    Climate scientists, who make a very nice living off global warming research aren't going to endanger their jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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