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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.

    The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.


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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.

    The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.


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    Oh please - it's not a matter of 'did he rape her - did he not?' . . . His guilt is not in question. Yes: he raped her and was convicted. (There was a sentencing)

    The judge went soft and then - when community service at a rape prevention crisis center was turned down by the common sense people at the crisis center the judge just shrugged and pretty much said she didn't care with her actions.

    And even if that weren't the case: you're attempt to brush off a rape as 'raging hormones that the male cannot control' is disgusting.
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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Where did you come up with your claims Vance? Please demonstrate.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1063244700

    Face it...you guys have three years of this staring at you. You cant have it both ways.

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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    I taught my boys anything but an unequivocal yes means no. Better to err on the safe side. It's not like finding a willing partner is overly difficult.

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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations,
    How, by not going to school? Why the hell should girls have to worry about getting raped at school? Your blame the victim mentality makes me sick.

    The guy is a ****ing scumbag who raped a 14 year old girl at school. He deserves the death penalty IMO.

    And the judge is a typical idiot coddle the criminal and blame the victim Democrat.

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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.

    The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.


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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    How, by not going to school? Why the hell should girls have to worry about getting raped at school? Your blame the victim mentality makes me sick.

    The guy is a ****ing scumbag who raped a 14 year old girl at school. He deserves the death penalty IMO.

    And the judge is a typical idiot coddle the criminal and blame the victim Democrat.
    It is laughable that you think it is typical of Democrats to be anti-Woman in matters of rape, when it is Republicans who have repeatedly expressed the anti-Woman rationales that this Judge used. She just happens to be a Democrat. Get real. This isn't about politics.
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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Not bizarre. Typical for konservative communities.
    Dallas is not even close to being a conservative community. And the judge is a typical liberal Democrat.

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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    It is laughable that you think it is typical of Democrats to be anti-Woman in matters of rape, when it is Republicans who have repeatedly expressed the anti-Woman rationales that this Judge used. She just happens to be a Democrat. Get real.
    Wrong! Quit letting the lamestream media brainwash you into thinking there is a Republican "war on women". It's a totally fictitious mantra meant to brainwash the gullible. Don't drink the kool-aid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    This isn't about politics.
    It most certainly is about politics. The judge is a typical big city Democrat who believes in coddling the most heinous violent sociopaths to leave room for victimless "criminals" like pot smokers who have harmed nobody in the prison system.

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    Re: Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1063244700

    Face it...you guys have three years of this staring at you. You cant have it both ways.
    That's pretty lame Vance. You ask me if I give a **** why Lewinsky comes out and says what we already know yesterday. I say no, and you get to here? Really?

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    What do you care?

    You are already on record stating that politics are more important than allegations of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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