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    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting [W:93:217]

    WASHINGTON The Supreme Court said Monday that prayers that open town council meetings do not violate the Constitution even if they routinely stress Christianity.The court said in 5-4 decision that the content of the prayers is not significant as long as officials make a good-faith effort at inclusion.
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times


    Too bad they forgot about high school football game prayers. ... /smh
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times


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    It'll be interesting to see the actual language. What, for instance, constitutes a "good-faith effort at inclusion?"


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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Good faith. The legal phrase for bare minimum required. And while I agree with the Court's ruling in terms of scope that the prayer is a small part of what is a larger civic meeting, the idea that it should be allowed because of tradition is crap. Tradition can still violate the First Amendment. I also wish the article went into more detail on Kagan's point of citizen participation because that is a potential game changer as well.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    I thought they ruled on this years ago - what am I thinking of instead?

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It'll be interesting to see the actual language. What, for instance, constitutes a "good-faith effort at inclusion?"
    Its a stupid ruling that runs counter to a previously made ruling (football game prayers, which I support) and merely muddles things. Stop futzing around SC just declare the 1st amendment unconstitutional and move on.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Interesting ruling. By that definition it seems a Hindu person can ask for ganash to be included and they would either have to get unspecific enough that the prayer has no meaning or they have to include ganash.
    Seems to coincide with the baphomet thing happening over in Oklahoma.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times

    Too bad they forgot about high school football game prayers. ... /smh
    As you've presented it here, I think the ruling was a mistake.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times


    Too bad they forgot about high school football game prayers. ... /smh
    How embarrassing, adults who are supposed to be in charge bowing their heads to talk to the invisible man.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times


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    Kennedy himself was the author an opinion in 1992 that held that a Christian prayer delivered at a high school graduation did violate the Constitution. The justice said Monday there are differences between the two situations, including the age of the audience and the fact that attendees at the council meeting may step out of the room if they do not like the prayer.
    U.S. Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting | The News-Messenger | thenews-messenger.com




    On praying before games
    Justice John Paul Stevens delivered the opinion of the Supreme Court, upholding the decision of the Court of Appeals, saying "the simple enactment of this policy, with the purpose and perception of school endorsement of student prayer, was a constitutional violation." He continues, " such a system encourages divisiveness along religious lines and threatens the imposition of coercion upon those students not desiring to participate in a religious exercise. Simply by establishing this school-related procedure, which entrusts the inherently nongovernmental subject of religion to a majoritarian vote, a constitutional violation has occurred."

    Joining Justice Stevens in his opinion were Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    How embarrassing, adults who are supposed to be in charge bowing their heads to talk to the invisible man.
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