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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    It's about time we put a stop to the over-interpretation of the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

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    If "a waste if time" is the concern then why not ban the national anthem and other preface ceremonies? He'll, why not just play the last quarter or 9th inning of the game?
    When there is a thread about banning things, then we can discuss that then. For now, this is a thread about what they are permitting and my suggestion that if they have to do a prayer, then do it at the end so those who do not wish to participate can leave when the official proceedings end. This is especially true if 100 religions show up for each meeting and they all want to do a prayer before official proceedings begin. I'm trying to come up with a reasonable compromise. What's yours?

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    I'm disappointed they didn't ban prayer altogether in public meetings. I don't really care one way or the other about the legal issues, I just can't stand to hear a bunch of hypocrites go through the charade. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I see the pre-meeting prayers as nothing more than "LOOK AT US PRAYING!! See, we really are religious, and you know that from this public display of piety!"

    And then the meeting starts and you can guess everyone's vote by who their donors are, where the power structure breaks down, who owes whom a favor, whose son or brother owns a tract of land that will double in value overnight when it's rezoned, etc. Might as well have a prayer before a poker game, or in the lobby of the whore house.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    I really don't understand why some religious folks have this "Look at me, I'm praying" need before meetings that they feel needs to be forced on everyone to see.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's about time we put a stop to the over-interpretation of the 1st Amendment.
    I somehow doubt you would agree to have several prayers of different religions before a meeting and only "approve" of Christian prayers being forced on everyone to hear. So please, don't try and pretend this is a 1st amendment issue for you. This is a "We want to cram our CHRISTIAN prayers down people's throats" concern.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Prayer is not banned before council meatings...anyone wishing to pray to whomever or whatever, and for whatever is not banned from doing so.

    Same for football games, High school comencement, class, voting, or any other public meeting. The contention is that prayer must be stated as a group before these meetings as a part of the meeting.


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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Whether there are prayers or not at town council meetings should be none of the Supreme Court's business, IMO.

    Having typed that, I wish the federal government would exclude religion completely from everything it does....I want the federal separation of church and state to be complete as possible.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    As long as prayers aren't used to proselytize or to denigrate non-believers I don't have a problem with it. It will be interesting to see if all religions are able to pray rather than preach.










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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Whether there are prayers or not at town council meetings should be none of the Supreme Court's business, IMO.

    Having typed that, I wish the federal government would exclude religion completely from everything it does....I want the federal separation of church and state to be complete as possible.
    That would be my preference.










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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I really don't understand why some religious folks have this "Look at me, I'm praying" need before meetings that they feel needs to be forced on everyone to see.
    I agree. Jesus said for us not to act like the hypocrites, who pray in public so that others may see how holier-than-thou they are, but to go into thy closet and pray to "Our Father, which art in secret".

    As for sports, God doesn't listen to "help our team win this game" prayers. He has more important prayers to listen to, from the sick, the hungry, and those who have lost hope.
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