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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    No, but I, and many others, don't want to support religious practices with our taxpayer money. If you are standing in a government building or on government land, it costs money to pray. If we were to use that logic, then I should protest paying rent to my landlord. It does not cost them anything for me to breathe, sleep and eat in the building that I reside in.
    It doesn't cost anything to pray. And the Supreme Court voted against you, so you must be wrong right?
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Interesting ruling. By that definition it seems a Hindu person can ask for ganash to be included and they would either have to get unspecific enough that the prayer has no meaning or they have to include ganash.
    Seems to coincide with the baphomet thing happening over in Oklahoma.
    Here is how this (any other political grandstanding) will be rectified in the 'prayer in public' debate: an official silent prayer, a moment of silence.. If you are an atheist, pray to your civil gods.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Here is how this (any other political grandstanding) will be rectified in the 'prayer in public' debate: silent prayer. If you are an atheist, pray to your civil gods.
    or just stand there going "this is annoying" which what I suspect actually happens.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You can bow your head and pray anytime you like. Why do you and others want to force the rest of us to participate. If group prayer were not an attempt to force others to participate, then what is the point of group prayer in the first place?

    Personally, I am of the opinion that prayer or any type of religious practice should not be allowed in any institution using taxpayer money.
    And the current SCOTUS disagrees with you. Even after a previous SCOTUS misinterpreted the religion part of the first amendment with their separation of church and state interpretation to force the first amendment to take an atheist's lean.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    I am just glad the Judicature corrected that "oversight".

    Blessed be the gods.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    What if a person of morals only pretends to have those morals?
    You seem to think I (or anyone else for that matter) are interested in slowly and laboriously wading through your excuses and imagined rationales for Chaz Stevens' bogus religious conversion to Satanist. I'm not and presenting incoherent musings and ramblings on top of all the side stepping you are doing is not going to change that. If you can't actually address what I have said even though you are quoting my post? You are wasting mine and your time, so nut up and address what I have said or we are done. One thing I said that you ignored is that efforts that start out as dishonest rarely ring true, your replies to me so far tend to strengthen my belief in that statement.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    You seem to think I (or anyone else for that matter) are interested in slowly and laboriously wading through your excuses and imagined rationales for Chaz Stevens' bogus religious conversion to Satanist. I'm not and presenting incoherent musings and ramblings on top of all the side stepping you are doing is not going to change that. If you can't actually address what I have said even though you are quoting my post? You are wasting mine and your time, so nut up and address what I have said or we are done. One thing I said that you ignored is that efforts that start out as dishonest rarely ring true, your replies to me so far tend to strengthen my belief in that statement.
    What if a person of morals only pretends to have those morals? You may be missing the point with your diversion. We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge that implies in legal fact, a moral of true witness bearing and even a subscription to this:

    Job 34:30 That the hypocrite reign not, lest the people be ensnared.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    What if a person of morals only pretends to have those morals? You may be missing the point with your diversion. We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge that implies in legal fact, a moral of true witness bearing and even a subscription to this:

    Job 34:30 That the hypocrite reign not, lest the people be ensnared.
    You don't address what I have said and now that is because I'm diverting?

    You chose to reply to my comments to another poster, not the other way around. You have ignored everything I have said then and since. Stevens' dishonesty and feigned conversion to a "religion" (that eschews prayer) so he can try to disrupt council meetings with his 'satanic prayer' is some kind of high moral ground? Absurd. So since you can't address the first post of mine you quoted and you keep ignoring what I have said, we are done.
    Last edited by Filthy McNasty; 05-10-14 at 04:31 PM.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    You don't address what I have said and now that is because I'm diverting?

    You chose to reply to my comments to another poster, not the other way around. You have ignored everything I have said then and since. Stevens' dishonesty and feigned conversion to a "religion" (that eschews prayer) so he can try to disrupt council meetings with his 'satanic prayer' is some kind of high moral ground? Absurd. So since you can't address the first post of mine you quoted and you keep ignoring what I have said, we are done.
    That is Only your unsubstantiated opinion, without any form of morals test.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    My advise to you is to take a chill pill and don't worry about how someone else prays.
    If any government in the US favors one religion over another, I'll continue to express my opinion. As for your opinion, you can take it and your chill pills and...
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