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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Red herring - show me where any place has instituted two hours worth of prayers. Generally a invocation prayer lasts less than 20 seconds.



    20 seconds or less of anything has failed to put a meeting off schedule. More time is spent clearing throats at meetings than any prayers.



    Most people will not agree with you because you are being petty.
    This is a government meeting of all citizens. My examples are examples, please don't be so literal. Also, reading comprehension would be appreciated. Finally, I was seeking a compromise and you will have none of it. Fine, got it. Don't expect me to agree. I hope your town has a major influx of members of some religion for which you do not agree and you get to listen to their prayers. My compromise is still valid, will you still be shouting about respecting the majority? You said you would, but I don't believe you.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    This is a government meeting of all citizens. My examples are examples, please don't be so literal. Also, reading comprehension would be appreciated. Finally, I was seeking a compromise and you will have none of it. Fine, got it. Don't expect me to agree. I hope your town has a major influx of members of some religion for which you do not agree and you get to listen to their prayers. My compromise is still valid, will you still be shouting about respecting the majority? You said you would, but I don't believe you.
    There isn't an influx of much of anything, just the regular normal folks who aren't angered by the tradition of a invocation prayer. The idea of the prayer is to ask for guidance. Our Congress does the same as was the tradition of our founding fathers.

    Your "compromise" is invalid. That is not a compromise it is a demand.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    There isn't an influx of much of anything, just the regular normal folks who aren't angered by the tradition of a invocation prayer. The idea of the prayer is to ask for guidance. Our Congress does the same as was the tradition of our founding fathers.

    Your "compromise" is invalid. That is not a compromise it is a demand.
    Citizens get to make demands of government, I read that in a book somewhere. They don't, however, get to make demands of private groups.

    A sad day when someone has to use the Congress as an example of a group to emulate.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I share your opinion. My husband & I neither one of us believes, but we completely respect those who do, and see most atheists as being very very intolerant of religious folks, to the degree that they show unabashed hatred towards them. It's ugly.
    If non-oppositional, non-vocal atheists are by definition quiet how do you know "most atheists as being very very intolerant of religious folks"? How do you determine what the majority of atheists are doing or saying?

    I have never in my life had Muslims or Jews ring my doorbell to talk to me about their God. I have don't recall ever seeing a Muslim or Jewish billboard. I've never had Muslim or Jewish friends pull me aside at a social function and ask me about my soul. In my experience Muslims and Jews in America don't proselytize. That may be where atheists have problems with the small but loud minority of Christian extremists. No Muslim or Jew in America has ever proclaimed my damnation for not believing as they do. OK, a few Jews have told me to go to hell, but that was more related to their daughters and my misspent youth and as far as I can tell had nothing to do with religion.

    Well, there was Rabbi Gerber, but he didn't tell me to go to hell or that I was going. I think he mentioned hell in terms of what he was going to give me if I continued to date his daughter.










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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    The madness will never cease. It would have been much better to have no prayers. Here we go:

    Less than three days after the Supreme Court ruled in Town of Greece v. Galloway that prayers before town meetings did not violate the Constitution’s ban on endorsing religion, a self-styled Satanist in Deerfield Beach, Florida has asked city officials to let him open a meeting with a Satanic prayer.

    Chaz Stevens — who made headlines last December when he forced Florida Governor Rick Scott to allow him to erect an 8-foot-tall Festivus pole made of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer cans next to Deerfield Beach’s nativity manger — told the New Times that he recently converted from “Pabstfestidian” because “Satan is a cool dude.”
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The madness will never cease. It would have been much better to have no prayers. Here we go:



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    I say they let him do it! In keeping with the sincerity of his recent conversion to Satanism? I say that he should have to recite his "prayers" using the common understanding of Satanism he no doubt has subscribed to. So he should recite his satanic prayers as loud as possible, speaking backwards. Everyone at the meeting should bring cans of Cambell's Green Pea soup to anoint him with afterwards.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    I say they let him do it! In keeping with the sincerity of his recent conversion to Satanism? I say that he should have to recite his "prayers" using the common understanding of Satanism he no doubt has subscribed to. So he should recite his satanic prayers as loud as possible, speaking backwards. Everyone at the meeting should bring cans of Cambell's Green Pea soup to anoint him with afterwards.
    Have you no respect for "morals".

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Citizens get to make demands of government, I read that in a book somewhere. They don't, however, get to make demands of private groups.

    A sad day when someone has to use the Congress as an example of a group to emulate.
    My advise to you is to take a chill pill and don't worry about how someone else prays.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Have you no respect for "morals".
    NIEN!
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    But seriously, this attention whore looks like he has no "business" at the council. Aside from disrupting it and making it all about religon, er "fictional" religion. Namely his fictional conversion to Satanisim!

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It'll be interesting to see the actual language. What, for instance, constitutes a "good-faith effort at inclusion?"
    Its a terrible ruling because the good faith at inclusion bit is so extremely vague and subjective that it is unenforceable. So it is a tyranny of the majority situation.

    Just more backwards decisions coming out of the usual 5-4 split favoring the 5 conservative fascists on the scouts.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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