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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Saving the kids from ebil religion, im aware if that asinine ruling.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting - Washington Times


    Too bad they forgot about high school football game prayers. ... /smh
    this pretty much says what people have been saying all along. you have freedom of religion not freedom from religion.
    if you know that they say a prayer at the begining of the meeting and you don't want to hear it wait till they are done.

    football game prayers depending are still legal.
    just like a judge ruled in favor of a cheerleader group could put bible verses on their banners at a football game.

    these athiest activist need to go back and read the constitution again. this just killed their argument. their attempt to squash any religious talk in a public forum has for at least now failed.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...2-696_4f57.pdf

    here is the opinion. it is limited though it only applies to this one city although that may expand depending.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Saving the kids from ebil religion, im aware if that asinine ruling.

    Saving kids from evil is not in any of the decisions...the point was that the ruling you that you beleive was correct was authored by the justice that ruled against prayer before sports and commencement.


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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    I would prefer that if these prayers had to happen, that they could happen at the end, so that those who doesn't want to participate can exit and not miss any of the business of the meeting.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I would prefer that if these prayers had to happen, that they could happen at the end, so that those who doesn't want to participate can exit and not miss any of the business of the meeting.
    Who has to participate? If you don't want to pray then just be respectful of those who do.

    What the hell is wrong with people? Are they scared that the prayers of someone next to them are going to rub off? Are they so faithless in their atheism that they believe they'll be converted just because of association?

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Are they so faithless in their atheism that they believe they'll be converted just because of association?
    Maybe they never got over their childhood fear of cooties, lol.

    In all seriousness, though, I don't see this is being any different from my obligation to put up with someone's profanity in public, when I choose to go to public places. When a young woman exclaims "Jesus ****ing Christ within ear shot of me, I find it a little offensive, because I wouldn't use that term in a public setting, but since I choose to go into the public, I am essentially obligated to tolerate her freedom of expression, no matter how offensive I find it.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Who has to participate? If you don't want to pray then just be respectful of those who do.

    What the hell is wrong with people? Are they scared that the prayers of someone next to them are going to rub off? Are they so faithless in their atheism that they believe they'll be converted just because of association?
    If they do it at the end, they don't waste the time of the people who don't choose to participate in the prayer. Why does the prayer have to take place at the beginning? Will God not listen if it happens later in the day?

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Interesting ruling. By that definition it seems a Hindu person can ask for ganash to be included and they would either have to get unspecific enough that the prayer has no meaning or they have to include ganash.
    Seems to coincide with the baphomet thing happening over in Oklahoma.
    That's the thing, it's all based on a "good-faith" effort at inclusion. Basically the prayer offered would have to be very non-specific "Dear Deity, without mentioning anybody in particular. If you even exist at all, which you may or may not. Please direct our efforts to be pleasing to you, if that's at all possible since we don't actually know what would be pleasing to you, or in fact who you are."


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    Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's the thing, it's all based on a "good-faith" effort at inclusion. Basically the prayer offered would have to be very non-specific "Dear Deity, without mentioning anybody in particular. If you even exist at all, which you may or may not. Please direct our efforts to be pleasing to you, if that's at all possible since we don't actually know what would be pleasing to you, or in fact who you are."
    It's a pyrrhic win for those who would seek to impose faith in public life.

    It's completely consistent with the first amendment though. All or nothing.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    If they do it at the end, they don't waste the time of the people who don't choose to participate in the prayer. Why does the prayer have to take place at the beginning? Will God not listen if it happens later in the day?
    If "a waste if time" is the concern then why not ban the national anthem and other preface ceremonies? He'll, why not just play the last quarter or 9th inning of the game?

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