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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The US has about 80% of its population believing in myths, superstitions, and fairy tales that we summarily call religion. Western Europe has less than 50%. Japan has even fewer. We are falling behind.
    There really is something special about someone using numbers they created themselves, to say that the country that leads in that stat is falling "behind".


    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    For someone not religious as you claim...you sure are doing your own clinging...which is to support dismantling separation of church and state.

    I had to literally go, leave my home, drive 80 miles. I wasn't running away from an argument. I'll hang in for days if your up to it.

    If you're eyeball high in Bovine feces - perhaps you should run alone. I'm surrounded by Texas Beef Master Ranches. No bother to me. In fact, you might shovel some up and bag it. It's worth some money.
    The word "cling" is one you drug into this is one of your previous post instead of addressing what was said to you. I see you still can't address anything said to you, but you say you are up for days more of this? No doubt you'd love several more days to try and explain how your tortured rationale really really is all about "seperation of church and state". Except you don't have the slightest grasp of the matter. Particularly since you keep trying to act as if a prayer before a meeting is the government (either at the local or national level) trying to establish a religion. Which is just asinine.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Okay, next time your town hall or city counsel or...which ever likes to pray before the meetings (And I'm sure it's one-prayer fits all religions), then request a little Mozart, and ask them to forego showing TV programs, especially anything that might have been recorded in relationship to the agenda of the public meeting.

    Well, your god is gonna be damn disappointed that you compare music to prayer.

    Religious Prayer - How many types of prayer are there?

    Catholic Prayer -,I think that they have like 5 different types of prayer. I see other religions have up to 6 types of prayer.

    Where do you wanna start?
    If me and the majority of the people in that meeting wanted to hear mozart before the town hall meeting, yes it will be played.

    And that doesn't answer my question. You said people shouldn't be allowed to pray out loud because you don't like it. How is that any different from anything else that people don't want to hear? Don't duck the question.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Oh, but you would want to hear...JESUS LOVES ME THIS I KNOWWWWWWWWWW! It's a town hall favorite.
    Again you aren't answering the question.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Your snarkiness is unwarranted. Tone it down.
    You really should follow your own advice. Other wise you're just a hypocrite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Yes, my children experienced harm from a prayer given prior to a public event.
    What was the harm they experienced?

    What I'm trying to get to is that freedom of speech, expression and religion harm no one. Being offended is not harming you. Hearing a prayer from another religion is not harming anyone. I think it would do people a whole lot more good if they were exposed more often to things with which they disagree.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The US has about 80% of its population believing in myths, superstitions, and fairy tales that we summarily call religion. Western Europe has less than 50%. Japan has even fewer. We are falling behind.
    Falling behind what?
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm confused. Does your religion not work if you can't involve it in government? Christians would be the first ones crying and whining when a town hall meeting gets opened up with a muslim prayer.
    Its actually the opposite. People tried to use the government to force people not to pray together. The government shouldn't have anything to do with it. The people in that meeting choose to pray. The government shouldn't have any say in it.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm confused. Does your religion not work if you can't involve it in government? Christians would be the first ones crying and whining when a town hall meeting gets opened up with a muslim prayer.
    Actually that hypothetical has already been addressed in this thread. More than once. Switching a Muslim for a Satanist does not make the point any less facetious than it was before, when it was answered to directly. Then there is of course the matter of Muslim prayer times, and their need for clean water to do so. All that said, as was pointed out before, if said Muslim did request that Muslim prayer be permitted before the meeting, even if some Christians on hand did not like it? Too bad, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Outright denying one religion the right to prayer before the meeting while allowing it for another would be inconsistent and likely to land this whole matter back in a court. But all of this is quite academic. Allowing a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian to say or participate in a short prayer before a meeting is hardly an example of the Muslim, Jewish or Christian faith trying to establish any of their religions at said meeting. That suggestion is idiotic on its face.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Its actually the opposite. People tried to use the government to force people not to pray together. The government shouldn't have anything to do with it. The people in that meeting choose to pray. The government shouldn't have any say in it.
    It's a meeting of the government.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Its actually the opposite. People tried to use the government to force people not to pray together. The government shouldn't have anything to do with it. The people in that meeting choose to pray. The government shouldn't have any say in it.
    I agree with you 100%...


    ...except the part that it's a government meeting.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling favors prayer at council meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Actually that hypothetical has already been addressed in this thread. More than once. Switching a Muslim for a Satanist does not make the point any less facetious than it was before, when it was answered to directly. Then there is of course the matter of Muslim prayer times, and their need for clean water to do so. All that said, as was pointed out before, if said Muslim did request that Muslim prayer be permitted before the meeting, even if some Christians on hand did not like it? Too bad, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Outright denying one religion the right to prayer before the meeting while allowing it for another would be inconsistent and likely to land this whole matter back in a court. But all of this is quite academic. Allowing a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian to say or participate in a short prayer before a meeting is hardly an example of the Muslim, Jewish or Christian faith trying to establish any of their religions at said meeting. That suggestion is idiotic on its face.
    Starting off a meeting with a Christian prayer establishes Christianity as a part of that meeting.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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