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    Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    A pilot was killed when his plane crashed during an air show at a California Air Force base Sunday.Eddie Andreini, 77, an air show veteran, was killed in the crash, Col. David Mott of Travis Air Force Base said at a Sunday afternoon press conference.
    "No one wants to see an event like this," Mott said. "Our hearts and condolences go out to the Andreini family."
    Andreini was attempting a "cutting the ribbon" maneuver when the biplane crashed upside-down on the tarmac shortly after 2 p.m., Mott said. The trick involves the plane inverting and flying close to the ground so that a knife attached to the plane can slice a ribbon just off the ground...
    As it happened, only the pilot was killed. This could have been a major disaster.

    A 77-year-old has no business flying upside down 8 feet from the ground on purpose.
    Stunt flying is for young pilots.

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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As it happened, only the pilot was killed. This could have been a major disaster.

    A 77-year-old has no business flying upside down 8 feet from the ground on purpose.
    Stunt flying is for young pilots.
    Glad noone was hurt, but in the world of stunts, it is the experienced who perform it best. I wouldn't say he shouldn't have done it, especially if he enjoyed it and was proficient at it. It's not like these guys don't practice it over and over again. I'm just thankful noone else was hurt.

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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    I don't think the age is an issue, unless his facilities were failing.

    I saw a video on this on the internet news.... what a shame. But at least he went out doing something he truly enjoyed.
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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I don't think the age is an issue, unless his facilities were failing.

    I saw a video on this on the internet news.... what a shame. But at least he went out doing something he truly enjoyed.
    He loved crashing?
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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    He loved crashing?
    Really?

    It's too damn early on a Monday for that.
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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Really?

    It's too damn early on a Monday for that.
    Oh, I don't know.

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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As it happened, only the pilot was killed. This could have been a major disaster.

    A 77-year-old has no business flying upside down 8 feet from the ground on purpose.
    Stunt flying is for young pilots.
    As someone who's flown a little recreational aerobatics I have to disagree Maggie. Civil aircraft in the aerobatic category are limited to 6 positive g and 3 negative and most airshow maneuvers don't approach those limits - they're more in the 4 g range. A healthy 77 years can comfortably handle that level of g and, assuming his hand-eye coordination is still there can fly to pretty tight tolerances. Inverted flight is a 1g maneuver btw - the biggest problem with it, if you're a bigger person, like me, is that you tend to smack your head, painfully, on the canopy once upside down.

    There are plenty of older folks on the airshow circuit who do that kind of thing regularly. It's certainly more dangerous than flying from point A to point B but that's the nature of the beast age has little to do with it.
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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Since the days of barn stormers and wing walkers planes have crashed for the amusement of crowds. I never got it.

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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    As someone who's flown a little recreational aerobatics I have to disagree Maggie. Civil aircraft in the aerobatic category are limited to 6 positive g and 3 negative and most airshow maneuvers don't approach those limits - they're more in the 4 g range. A healthy 77 years can comfortably handle that level of g and, assuming his hand-eye coordination is still there can fly to pretty tight tolerances. Inverted flight is a 1g maneuver btw - the biggest problem with it, if you're a bigger person, like me, is that you tend to smack your head, painfully, on the canopy once upside down.

    There are plenty of older folks on the airshow circuit who do that kind of thing regularly. It's certainly more dangerous than flying from point A to point B but that's the nature of the beast age has little to do with it.
    By the time most people are 77 years old, they're taking various medications, their reflexes have slowed dramatically, their eyesight and depth perception has changed. One has to wonder what kind of annual review is being done to assure that these people are safe -- not only for themselves, but for the observers. Many 77-year-olds I've known shouldn't even be driving.

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    Re: Pilot killed in air show crash at California Air Force base

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    As someone who's flown a little recreational aerobatics I have to disagree Maggie. Civil aircraft in the aerobatic category are limited to 6 positive g and 3 negative and most airshow maneuvers don't approach those limits - they're more in the 4 g range. A healthy 77 years can comfortably handle that level of g and, assuming his hand-eye coordination is still there can fly to pretty tight tolerances. Inverted flight is a 1g maneuver btw - the biggest problem with it, if you're a bigger person, like me, is that you tend to smack your head, painfully, on the canopy once upside down.

    There are plenty of older folks on the airshow circuit who do that kind of thing regularly. It's certainly more dangerous than flying from point A to point B but that's the nature of the beast age has little to do with it.
    Tighten your shoulder harness some more. Glue a piece of foam to the canopy.
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