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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

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    Shades of Hitler, syphillis and drug addition?

    Well, the tactics used so far are the pretty much the same. Complete with Chamberlain / Kerry complaining when the aggressor doesn't live up to the deal struck by diplomatic means.

    What? Sorry, I am coming to a forum I was relatively new at before I left.
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercer View Post
    From what I can discern on the talk news shows, Putin is really not in his right mind. Anyone else hear that?
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercer View Post
    What? Sorry, I am coming to a forum I was relatively new at before I left.
    Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

    Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

    Eerie, how history repeats.
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

    Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

    Eerie, how history repeats.
    Let's hope it doesn't repeat in total!

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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Let's hope it doesn't repeat in total!
    Yeah. But then, it's a ground war in Europe again. Revitalization of the American manufacturing base? Hell of a price to pay, I'd have to say.

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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

    Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

    Eerie, how history repeats.
    Except the seizure of the Sudetenland was not a response to the British backing an anti-German coup in Prague. The Sudetenland was also not historically a part of Germany that was simply handed over to a subdivision many years prior that subsequently gained independence. It had been historically part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and its predecessors.
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercer View Post
    From what I can discern on the talk news shows, Putin is really not in his right mind. Anyone else hear that?
    Got links for this?
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because that's just the way it is. The bad part, is that Western leaders can't seem to accept that reality. Wishful thinking isn't going to accomplish anything.
    Now Apdst, I know this is the way it is. I know that first hand while dealing with Russian satellite Serbia and witnessed its destruction. Civility was not considered serious with Milosevic neither, military campaigns did.

    The backward mentality sort of pushes us to behave backwards like them. So I was asking why should we behave like them in order to be taken seriously? Why cannot they behave more civil like us and be more reasonable instead?
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

    Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

    Eerie, how history repeats.
    And backward idiots do not pay attention to history!
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    Re: Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Except the seizure of the Sudetenland was not a response to the British backing an anti-German coup in Prague. The Sudetenland was also not historically a part of Germany that was simply handed over to a subdivision many years prior that subsequently gained independence. It had been historically part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and its predecessors.
    The other difference is that we today have A-Bombs too that need to be put into the equation.
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