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Obama, Merkel threaten new Russia sanctions

Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

Eerie, how history repeats.

Except the seizure of the Sudetenland was not a response to the British backing an anti-German coup in Prague. The Sudetenland was also not historically a part of Germany that was simply handed over to a subdivision many years prior that subsequently gained independence. It had been historically part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and its predecessors.
 
Because that's just the way it is. The bad part, is that Western leaders can't seem to accept that reality. Wishful thinking isn't going to accomplish anything.

Now Apdst, I know this is the way it is. I know that first hand while dealing with Russian satellite Serbia and witnessed its destruction. Civility was not considered serious with Milosevic neither, military campaigns did.

The backward mentality sort of pushes us to behave backwards like them. So I was asking why should we behave like them in order to be taken seriously? Why cannot they behave more civil like us and be more reasonable instead?
 
Putin has taken the Crimea peninsula with much the same tactics as Hitler took the Sudetenland. Now, he's using much the same tactics on the larger part of the Ukraine.

Kerry struck a deal with his opposite number from Russia in Geneva only later to find out that the Russians weren't complying with their obligations under the agreement, it was as if we were reliving Chamberlain coming home to the UK after striking a similar deal with Hitler. I believe that Kerry pretty much as the same 'Peace in our time' statement to the press as well.

Eerie, how history repeats.

And backward idiots do not pay attention to history!
 
Except the seizure of the Sudetenland was not a response to the British backing an anti-German coup in Prague. The Sudetenland was also not historically a part of Germany that was simply handed over to a subdivision many years prior that subsequently gained independence. It had been historically part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and its predecessors.

The other difference is that we today have A-Bombs too that need to be put into the equation.
 
Now Apdst, I know this is the way it is. I know that first hand while dealing with Russian satellite Serbia and witnessed its destruction. Civility was not considered serious with Milosevic neither, military campaigns did.

The backward mentality sort of pushes us to behave backwards like them. So I was asking why should we behave like them in order to be taken seriously? Why cannot they behave more civil like us and be more reasonable instead?

If you understand that that is how it is, then why do you keep asking the same question?
 
And backward idiots do not pay attention to history!

Putin has certainly been paying attention to Obama's history.
 
Putin has certainly been paying attention to Obama's history.

The thing is what we value as strength they interpret as weakness. I mean Obama comes forth with diplomacy, civility, understanding, reaching out, partnership, communication, easiness, calmness, etc. This here is strength! Some people would panic and unleash hell after Putin's Nazi-fascist hegemony behavior in 21st century! Instead look at the calmness in Obama. Not even a mini facial expression as he makes his positions!

But nooooooo! The assumption among them seems to be "One is weak unless proves in deed their capability to inflict damage upon them!" Unless there is blood on the ground and military positions bombed one is perceived apriori as weak!

So why should we change to their means of communication if we know that ours is more civil and elevated compared to their backward mentality?
 
If you understand that that is how it is, then why do you keep asking the same question?

But we are right with out civil approach and they are wrong? We have higher moral standards. So I guess I am looking for more than "that is how it is" when asking the questions. Why cannot they be more civil like us?
 
The thing is what we value as strength they interpret as weakness. I mean Obama comes forth with diplomacy, civility, understanding, reaching out, partnership, communication, easiness, calmness, etc. This here is strength! Some people would panic and unleash hell after Putin's Nazi-fascist hegemony behavior in 21st century! Instead look at the calmness in Obama. Not even a mini facial expression as he makes his positions!

But nooooooo! The assumption among them seems to be "One is weak unless proves in deed their capability to inflict damage upon them!" Unless there is blood on the ground and military positions bombed one is perceived apriori as weak!

So why should we change to their means of communication if we know that ours is more civil and elevated compared to their backward mentality?

Are you just yankin' my chain? Surely you're not this incredibly naïve?
 
But we are right with out civil approach and they are wrong? We have higher moral standards. So I guess I am looking for more than "that is how it is" when asking the questions. Why cannot they be more civil like us?

Because they're animals. There's only one way to deal with an animal.
 
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