Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

Filthy McNasty · May 3, 2014

Hatuey said:
2 years later and Republicans are still complaining about Americans killed in an embassy... something they didn't care about in any of these other incidents...

Here are all the attacks under Reagan:

18 April 1983 Beirut, Lebanon Islamic Jihad car bomb destroys Embassy (see April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing) 63 (of which 17 were Americans)
12 December 1983 Kuwait City, Kuwait al-Dawa truck bomb outside Embassy 6
20 September 1984 Beirut, Lebanon Hezbollah car bomb outside embassy (see 1984 United States embassy annex bombing) 24
November 1984 Bogota, Colombia Car bomb outside Embassy planted by drug cartel 1
February 1986 Lisbon, Portugal Popular Forces of 25 April car bomb outside Embassy none
14 May 1986 Jakarta, Indonesia Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
9 June 1987 Rome, Italy Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
17 September 1989 Bogota, Colombia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant none

and Bush:

22 January 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attacked American cultural centre, which included public affairs office of nearby US Consulate (more details) armed assault 5 Indian security
14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonated outside Consulate (more details) bombing 12 Pakistani civilians
12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings bombing none
28 February 2003 Karachi, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack US Consulate (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani security
30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan bombs US Embassy bombing none
6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound armed assault 5 Saudi personnel
4 attackers
2 March 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Consulate, killing a US diplomat (more details) bombing 1 US personnel
1 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 attacker
12 September 2006 Damascus, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy armed assault 1 Syrian security
3 attackers
12 January 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle bombing none
18 March 2008 Sana'a, Yemen Mortar rounds missed US Embassy, hitting nearby school bombing 2 Yemeni civilians
9 July 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate (more details) armed assault 3 Turkish security
3 attackers
17 September 2008 Sana'a, Yemen A coordinated attack resulted in a 20-minute battle with security (more details) armed assault 6 Yemeni security
5 Yemeni civilians
1 US civilian
6 attackers

Where was their outrage then? Nowhere. The right's insistence that this particular case should bring US politicians to justice is betrayed by the fact that they've NEVER cared about attacks on US embassy personnel when a Republican is in charge. In the words of right wing slavery apologists: It was a long time ago ago. Get over it.

The families of the slain are still complaining? About something they did not care about? In any or any "other" instance? As I just said elsewhere, anyone want to try to make sense of this gibberish? Apparently it involves Reagan and the 80's. Everyone Wang Chung tonight.

MMC · May 3, 2014

Filthy McNasty said:
The families of the slain are still complaining? About something they did not care about? In any or any "other" instance? As I just said elsewhere, anyone want to try to make sense of this gibberish? Apparently it involves Reagan and the 80's. Everyone Wang Chung tonight.

Mornin' FM :2wave: Yeah its the usual tactic of where was the outrage when a Republican was in Office. They forget the outrage was over any killed by those on the rage. Also and where was the outrage pouring in from then. From those on the left about anything and everything. Even if their party agreed with Republicans on any matters involving conflict.

Who had the most problem with it as it sure wasn't the blue dog Democrats.

The other issue is.....they only talk about the dead. Notice how they don't say anything about those who were wounded and how many of them there were? Where is the concern for them by the left that they would deliberately forget about others who sacrificed to, but just didn't pay the ultimate price. All those others and their families affected too.

Not so high browed and condescending now are they????? What happened why couldn't they even come up with a thought on such why was it never thought of. For the last 2 years I have been up in this mix and not once. Have I ever heard the left even mention those wounded that survived. But they're so full of caring and concern Right? What did they think peoples outrage was Fair and Balanced. Your rage can only equal our rage or something. :roll:

humbolt · May 3, 2014

NIMBY said:
I'm comfortable supporting positives, like today's job numbers.
You're comfortable being Nixon on steroids, parroting non-issues as your GOP talking points instruct.
All negatives and no action, except driving down DEM voter totals and tax breaks for the rich.
Voodoo economics on steroids .

You're living in an alternate universe. You look at the reported jobs numbers and jump up and down like a teenage girl, and ignore the 800,000 who dropped out of the workforce. IOW, you're pleased with finding a piece of candy in a pile of cow flop. Good job.

MMC · May 3, 2014

humbolt said:
You're living in an alternate universe. You look at the reported jobs numbers and jump up and down like a teenage girl, and ignore the 800,000 who dropped out of the workforce. IOW, you're pleased with finding a piece of candy in a pile of cow flop. Good job.

Mornin' HB. :2wave: Yeah when they do that. Direct them to the Bowles Simpson Report where it stated we needed to be hitting 239k jobs every month to crawl out of this recession which really is a depression but for some reason the Left doesn't want to be so PC about that terminology.

humbolt · May 3, 2014

Hatuey said:
2 years later and Republicans are still complaining about Americans killed in an embassy... something they didn't care about in any of these other incidents...

Here are all the attacks under Reagan:

18 April 1983 Beirut, Lebanon Islamic Jihad car bomb destroys Embassy (see April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing) 63 (of which 17 were Americans)
12 December 1983 Kuwait City, Kuwait al-Dawa truck bomb outside Embassy 6
20 September 1984 Beirut, Lebanon Hezbollah car bomb outside embassy (see 1984 United States embassy annex bombing) 24
November 1984 Bogota, Colombia Car bomb outside Embassy planted by drug cartel 1
February 1986 Lisbon, Portugal Popular Forces of 25 April car bomb outside Embassy none
14 May 1986 Jakarta, Indonesia Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
9 June 1987 Rome, Italy Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
17 September 1989 Bogota, Colombia RPG fired on Embassy by unknown assailant none

and Bush:

22 January 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attacked American cultural centre, which included public affairs office of nearby US Consulate (more details) armed assault 5 Indian security
14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonated outside Consulate (more details) bombing 12 Pakistani civilians
12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings bombing none
28 February 2003 Karachi, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack US Consulate (more details) armed assault 2 Pakistani security
30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan bombs US Embassy bombing none
6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound armed assault 5 Saudi personnel
4 attackers
2 March 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Consulate, killing a US diplomat (more details) bombing 1 US personnel
1 Pakistani personnel
1 Pakistani security
1 attacker
12 September 2006 Damascus, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy armed assault 1 Syrian security
3 attackers
12 January 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle bombing none
18 March 2008 Sana'a, Yemen Mortar rounds missed US Embassy, hitting nearby school bombing 2 Yemeni civilians
9 July 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate (more details) armed assault 3 Turkish security
3 attackers
17 September 2008 Sana'a, Yemen A coordinated attack resulted in a 20-minute battle with security (more details) armed assault 6 Yemeni security
5 Yemeni civilians
1 US civilian
6 attackers

Where was their outrage then? Nowhere. The right's insistence that this particular case should bring US politicians to justice is betrayed by the fact that they've NEVER cared about attacks on US embassy personnel when a Republican is in charge. In the words of right wing slavery apologists: It was a long time ago ago. Get over it.

Yeah, get over it. They were all spawned by inflammatory videos. Since you're so willing to accept that garbage for the recent attack, surely you can accept it for the others as well. We'll just make it a bipartisan lie, and that should make you happy as a clam.

humbolt · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Mornin' HB. :2wave: Yeah when they do that. Direct them to the Bowles Simpson Report where it stated we needed to be hitting 239k jobs every month to crawl out of this recession which really is a depression but for some reason the Left doesn't want to be so PC about that terminology.

It is a good morning here. Hope the weather has improved there, too. We can't possibly call it a depression without mentioning Bush in the same breath, even though nearly six years have passed. NIMBY blindly accepts Obama's crowing over made up numbers calling job creation a positive while ignoring the staggering numbers of jobs lost. They'll stoop to any level for the opportunity to pat themselves on the back, as if the public at large can't see what's happening.

Manc Skipper · May 3, 2014

Tis is long past breaking news, it needs to move on. To "Conspiracy theories"

MMC · May 3, 2014

humbolt said:
Yeah, get over it. They were all spawned by inflammatory videos. Since you're so willing to accept that garbage for the recent attack, surely you can accept it for the others as well. We'll just make it a bipartisan lie, and that should make you happy as a clam.

Correction HB.....the Anti Muslim Video BS. Has been debunked, torn apart, and put back on the shelf. Truly there is no need to try and use it other than to Point out that's where the First lie By Team O came in at. Which now they want to try and go back and say they were confused and were learning on the job. That it was someone elses fault. Which in even that.....all 3 come into Play. WH, State Dept, and CIA. All under Team BO and his so called transparency.

MMC · May 3, 2014

Manc Skipper said:
Tis is long past breaking news, it needs to move on. To "Conspiracy theories"

Try again Skipper.....there is an ongoing investigation being conducted by the FBI. BO put out an Order. so that the FBI could go an Operate in Libya.

Perhaps when they give their final report.....then all of this can go away. Until then.....its really on BO why it is dragging along.

Grant · May 3, 2014

NIMBY said:
When Bush laughed and mocked WMDs when he did his Alf Landon speech in 2004, that would be the definition of dishonoring the dead.

Now you are really going back to the last century. something you just accused another poster of doing. This is not about George Bush either so give that a rest, it's about the lying and cover ups in the current administration. You voted for the creep, did you?

Not to mention the tens of thousands who have PTSD and were maimed and destroyed for life.Got a few jokes for the 22 suicides that occur each day from Bush's lying war?

Why are you even on this thread? Is this how you're trying to defend Barry Obama???

humbolt · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Correction HB.....the Anti Muslim Video BS. Has been debunked, torn apart, and put back on the shelf. Truly there is no need to try and use it other than to Point out that's where the First lie By Team O came in at. Which now they want to try and go back and say they were confused and were learning on the job. That it was someone elses fault. Which in even that.....all 3 come into Play. WH, State Dept, and CIA. All under Team BO and his so called transparency.

Yeah, I know. I offered it tongue in cheek for the true believers here. There are still some who think that the lie was spawned in the fog of the moment. We know it was deliberate and offered in spite of certain knowledge to the contrary. The devotion to duty and honor demonstrated by the folks in Benghazi isn't shared by this administration.

Grant · May 3, 2014

NIMBY said:
Now that Benghazi thread posters just scream the LIE card and and the COVER-UP card and calling Obama and his administration SCUMBAGS,
there's really nothing left to talk to you people about.

No screaming but there were obvious lies and cover ups. This is not acceptable in any Western democracy and you really don't want to get in the habit of such supporting such things.

Now that you know there were lies and a cover-up what should the American people do to try and prevent these recurrences? It would be unwise to allow this to act as a precedent, hoping that a long stall would prevent the truth from eventually coming out, claiming it is old news, lets move on and after all this time what difference does it make. This would be the actions of an irresponsible and not very bright electorate, and these precedents would only make it more difficult for the generation to follow.

When you try to out-do I$$A likening everything Obama to Watergate AND worse, we see the 3+ year Kangaroo court locked in place for two more years, or less.

You seem unclear of the meaning of Kangaroo Court.

Next week you guys will be back to the IRS card, voting Lerner in contempt, and the week after you'll go back to your favorite card ACA.

Best stick to the topic at hand.
Tell me one more time why you hate the law please.

How do you feel about LYING GOPs who say one thing on ACA in DC and another on their website.
The only contribution from your GOP right now, since you identify with their key lies about Obama,
is to continue to raise the negatives and drive down voting numberrs, Nixon on steroids .

Again you are going back to the last century.

Grant · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Correction HB.....the Anti Muslim Video BS. Has been debunked, torn apart, and put back on the shelf. Truly there is no need to try and use it other than to Point out that's where the First lie By Team O came in at. Which now they want to try and go back and say they were confused and were learning on the job. That it was someone elses fault. Which in even that.....all 3 come into Play. WH, State Dept, and CIA. All under Team BO and his so called transparency.

That random video some WH aide claimed to have caused all the problems certainly ruined the life of the guy who made it. Apart from a whole squad raiding his home in the middle of the night and carting him off to jail they also released his name so that Muslims would know his identity. Obama spends more time speaking out against Americans than he does about anyone else.

MMC · May 3, 2014

humbolt said:
Yeah, I know. I offered it tongue in cheek for the true believers here. There are still some who think that the lie was spawned in the fog of the moment. We know it was deliberate and offered in spite of certain knowledge to the contrary. The devotion to duty and honor demonstrated by the folks in Benghazi isn't shared by this administration.

Well, that's where BO thought he could tie it into the Planned uprisings to Protest our Embassies, overseas schools, Businesses and Military Installations. The 10yr Anniversary of 911.

Even that didn't work out to well with the So called Sunni Cleric in Cairo that also Preached to riot the US. The one that never saw the video but heard about it. Yet the one that never was brought in for using Social media to Spread the Uprising to other Sunni Clerics in other Muslim countries. Wherein the final total was 23 that rose up to Protest the good ole US of A. All around the Anniversary of 911. A Decade of the War on Terror.

Even though we know it goes back much further.

MMC · May 3, 2014

Grant said:
That random video some WH aide claimed to have caused all the problems certainly ruined the life of the guy who made it. Apart from a whole squad raiding his home in the middle of the night and carting him off to jail they also released his name so that Muslims would know his identity. Obama spends more time speaking out against Americans than he does about anyone else.

Mornin' Grant :2wave: In which we have Hillary telling the father of one of the fallen. That they would be bringing that guy in. Then CNN interviewing the father over it.

humbolt · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Well, that's where BO thought he could tie it into the Planned uprisings to Protest our Embassies, overseas schools, Businesses and Military Installations. The 10yr Anniversary of 911.

Even that didn't work out to well with the So called Sunni Cleric in Cairo that also Preached to riot the US. The one that never saw the video but heard about it. Yet the one that never was brought in for using Social media to Spread the Uprising to other Sunni Clerics in other Muslim countries. Wherein the final total was 23 that rose up to Protest the good ole US of A. All around the Anniversary of 911. A Decade of the War on Terror.

Even though we know it goes back much further.

It does, and I'm surprised that such history is rarely discussed, as if current affairs don't have roots in a history rich and replete with similar hallmarks and events. The slaughter we call terrorism now has been carried out for a very long time, and it's a symptom which veils the source. Our failure to recognize the source is pitiful. We play a political game with it at our own peril.

Robbie Loucks · May 3, 2014

Gill said:
What a disgusting comment. It was a liberal that when asked about their deaths said "what difference does it make".

Clinton's comment was taken way out of context. She was referring to whether or not the attack was a reaction to a YouTube video that was critical of Islam.

j-mac · May 3, 2014

Hatuey said:
2 years later and Republicans are still complaining about Americans killed in an embassy...(?)

I really don't understand how liberals can be so cold.

Grant · May 3, 2014

Robbie Loucks said:
Clinton's comment was taken way out of context. She was referring to whether or not the attack was a reaction to a YouTube video that was critical of Islam.

And knowing full well that no video was involved. That is called perjury, a law with which her husband is also familiar.

Grant · May 3, 2014

j-mac said:
I really don't understand how liberals can be so cold.

Ideology is everything. It was the same with Fascists, Nazis and Communists. They knew decades ago that believers in one of these ideologies could easily and relatively quickly believe in the next. I read something of this phenomena many years ago by, I believe, Jean François Revel. They simply cannot help themselves no matter how the facts might fly in their faces.

MMC · May 3, 2014

Robbie Loucks said:
Clinton's comment was taken way out of context. She was referring to whether or not the attack was a reaction to a YouTube video that was critical of Islam.

Think abut this.....Hillary never called back to even check on her people. Male or female after she talked to Hicks.

Don't look to good when one would leave their people not knowing what was going on and that things were in a state of flux.....talk to a top person on the ground as things have gone physical and there is engagement.

Then never check back to even see if they were alive or how many got out.

Then think if she was a President on how many she would leave to die without even checking on them.

Robbie Loucks · May 3, 2014

Grant said:
And knowing full well that no video was involved. That is called perjury, a law with which her husband is also familiar.

It's perjury to question whether or not the motive is relevant? Boy, I should be more careful with asking questions, I make get accused of perjury!

Robbie Loucks · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Think abut this.....Hillary never called back to even check on her people. Male or female after she talked to Hicks.

Don't look to good when one would leave their people not knowing what was going on and that things were in a state of flux.....talk to a top person on the ground as things have gone physical and there is engagement.

Then never check back to even see if they were alive or how many got out.

Then think if she was a President on how many she would leave to die without even checking on them.

I'm lost, what was the purpose of your post?

MMC · May 3, 2014

Robbie Loucks said:
I'm lost, what was the purpose of your post?

Well, you were pointing out her comments over the video and as to Islam, which really wasn't the purpose of the question given to her.....so My Purpose was to bring up her comments that she testified to and or was questioned on......which were real time.

Reminding you of her actions and words she also had spoken and what the results of them were. So that you could think of that Impact on others.

Robbie Loucks · May 3, 2014

MMC said:
Well, you were pointing out her comments over the video and as to Islam, which really wasn't the purpose of the question given to her.....so My Purpose was to bring up her comments that she testified to and or was questioned on......which were real time.

Reminding you of her actions and words she also had spoken and what the results of them were. So that you could think of that Impact on others.

I was replying directly to Gill, not the thread's topic or the event.

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