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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Don't you see how horribly hypocritical this is?

    April 18, 1983: a suicide bomber detonated a truck in the Beruit Embassy killing 63.
    October 23, 1983: a suicide bomber detonates a truck in the Marine barracks killing 299.
    September 20th, 1984: a suicide bomber detonated a truck in the Beruit Embassy killing 20. The embassy had been open 6 weeks.

    September 23rd, 1984: When asked why security recommendations hadn't been implemented in the rebuilt embassy Regan responded 'Anyone that's ever had their kitchen done over knows that it never gets done as soon as you wish it would.'

    But that's okay. They were in the "process" of doing something about security; hey at least this time the guards were allowed to load their weapons. 17 months and two other attacks was not enough to figure out that it's time to do something about suicide truck bombs. But Obama on the other hand: 125-150 attackers killed 4 in two separate attacks in Benghazi. Contemporaneously, attacks on the Cairo, Yemen, Tunis and Khartoum embassies didn't result in any fatalities.

    There isn't even a word for how different the two situations are. After the THIRD horrific attack; including one on on a building you just rebuilt from the ground up because it was destroyed; the president claims we're working on it and that's enough for you. Put a Democrat in the office and one lapse is the worst thing that's every happened.
    As I said, let's not change the subject. If you want them to make a commission on that, then fine. We are talking about Benghazi.
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You'll recall, nothing happened to Bush. Nothing. And he went way beyond the PDB's. And you and others were never, ever outraged. How can you now expect your outrage to be taken seriously. You set the bar.
    Never stopped you (liberals) from incessantly pestering threads with name calling, and worse...But I get it, you really don't care when American's are killed, at least when its a demo in office...

    There was a hypothetical we discussed at the time Joe, where I was trying to get at when you would act in the face of terrorism if your own family was in danger...Do you remember that? It was concerning "pro active" vs. "after the fact".... It is clear that liberals just don't want to act at all, even when their own fellow citizens, and ambassadors are killed...
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
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    Spare me the faux outrage. You know what I see from modern history? When Americans are attacked with a Republican president, the country pulls together. We get the bottom of what happened, and we make sure it doesn't happen again. Compare that to what happens under a Democratic administration. The GOP didn't even wait until the attack was over before they started politicizing it. When was the last time a Republican missed an opportunity to score political points in the name of patriotism? WWII?

    Contrast that with Benghazi. Yes, its' a tragedy. But 13 Benghazi's happened under Bush. Did anyone try to politicize them? What about the Republican's insistence that Bin Laden was a Clinton manufactured threat? What about Bin Laden poised to attack US? What about deliberately releasing misleading intelligence to sell a war? What about families buying body armor online to send to their loved ones in harms way because that's the military we have. What about increasing the terror threat levels before elections when there was no new threat? The list goes on and on and on and on...

    But obviously the real story here is Benghazi... everyone else is the problem.
    Do you have a source that says Reagan ordered Marines to not load their weapons?
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you have a source that says Reagan ordered Marines to not load their weapons?
    I am sure that the Rules of Engagement (ROE) did not come from the Oval Office. They typical come from theater command.
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you have a source that says Reagan ordered Marines to not load their weapons?
    Of course he doesn't...That's just one of the many double standards liberal progressives operate under, and don't even see it in themselves....If this were a republican president in office and we were trying these stupid covers for him, we'ed hear to no end how blind partisans or worse...

    Another part I am growing sick and damned tired of is the constant justification using 'the Bush administration did it too' as if that makes it all ok...If when my kids were little, and came to me with 'Meagan did it first' bull crap, they'd both be punished for trying to do something wrong by using another wrong to get away with it...It's juvenile...
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And this is about the new thread. You don't understand that you guys killed any chance of having outrage here because you had none when it matter. You're the reason this won't likely go anywhere. You guys set the bar. You're now not seen as having any substance because of your hypocrisy.
    So, to be fair... which we all know you want to be... this is your bar, and this is why you will have no outrage at the next Republican misdeed.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    As I said, let's not change the subject. If you want them to make a commission on that, then fine. We are talking about Benghazi.
    It's all the same subject! The Republicans are like little kids who've eaten glue and spread finger paint all over the walls, then take a hissy fit when their mom knocks over the paper towels cleaning up their mess. Benghazi was a tragedy, but there is simply no context. Yes he has his faults, but Obama has done a damn fine job keeping America safe. That's more than can be said for any modern GOP president except George HW Bush.

    Bush 43 and Reagan both repeatedly demonstrated colossal incompetence in both security and intelligence. Benghazi wouldn’t even be a footnote in either of their presidencies yet it is the centerpiece of Republican "policy".

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you have a source that says Reagan ordered Marines to not load their weapons?
    Hammel, Eric M. The Root: The Marines in Beirut, August 1982-February 1984. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1985
    Sentries were ordered to keep their weapons at condition four (no magazine inserted and no rounds in the chamber). Only one sentry, LCpl Eddie DiFranco, was able to load and chamber a round.


    This is after a suicide bombing at the US embassy April 18, 1983 killed 63 people. The Marines weren't even able to fire off a shot and 241 Americans died. A few months later, the Embassy was blown up again. 17 months after the first bombing, security recommendations STILL hadn't been implemented. Reagan’s response 'Anyone that's ever had their kitchen done over knows that it never gets done as soon as you wish it would.'.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course he doesn't...That's just one of the many double standards liberal progressives operate under, and don't even see it in themselves....If this were a republican president in office and we were trying these stupid covers for him, we'ed hear to no end how blind partisans or worse...

    Another part I am growing sick and damned tired of is the constant justification using 'the Bush administration did it too' as if that makes it all ok...If when my kids were little, and came to me with 'Meagan did it first' bull crap, they'd both be punished for trying to do something wrong by using another wrong to get away with it...It's juvenile...
    Btw.. apology accepted.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I am sure that the Rules of Engagement (ROE) did not come from the Oval Office. They typical come from theater command.
    The problem was they were under UN designated commanders, which is where the whole business started and the US never again allowed direct command of our troops by non-US military personnel. We were acting like a bunch of blue hats. You don't camp Marines in a building like that and not provide the proper security, but the UN wanted to be all PC and not offend the natives. Our commanders went along with this bull****, and we got people killed for no good reason.
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course he doesn't...That's just one of the many double standards liberal progressives operate under, and don't even see it in themselves....If this were a republican president in office and we were trying these stupid covers for him, we'ed hear to no end how blind partisans or worse...

    Another part I am growing sick and damned tired of is the constant justification using 'the Bush administration did it too' as if that makes it all ok...If when my kids were little, and came to me with 'Meagan did it first' bull crap, they'd both be punished for trying to do something wrong by using another wrong to get away with it...It's juvenile...
    what "double-standard"? those of your point of view habitually post appeals to ignorance and claim they are right, simply because they are on the right.

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