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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No they weren't trying to get local militia to give up arms.
    Yes, they were. You helped to prove it when you mentioned the Lybian cargo ship full of Lybian arms waiting off the coast.



    He met the Turks envoy. Since the Turks had closed up their embassy back when the fighting with Gadhafi was going on.

    Which was Validated that they were on the Streets seen 2hrs before the attack. That's when the Turk Left. Which again that needs to be pursued as to how he got out.
    So you help prove that Stevens knew the dangers of being in Benghazi. Ntl, his main reason for being there was to act as interpreter and help the CIA negotiate with the local militants to give up their arms. He was not there on a state mission, he was there on a CIA mission. Hence, its all classified...top secret....hush hush, and congress is sworn not to tell.

    After that meeting and not more than a few days Later a Libyan Freighter shows up off the coast of Syria and does not dock in any major port. Which we now all know was loaded with the weapons the Cia had confiscated from Gadhafi.
    That's makes sense. But it doesn't negate the fact that Stevens was working for the CIA when the compound was attacked...or that he didn't know the danger before he went to Benghazi and that he still chose to go.
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Then it would be the CIA's fault for not providing him adequate security. One of the issues (besides the lies from the regime here in America) is that a US Ambassador didn't have adequate security measures; if you want to suggest he was working on a CIA op they should have provided him adequate security. I believe its been reported the Stevens had, in writing, asked for more security for the Benghazi mission well ahead of this and he was turned down. In a time when people actually cared about the lives of others a person in the employ of our government that failed to adequately assess the security needs of such an ambassador would at least be fired. A "twerp" idiot moron that appears on national TV and say "dude" it was "like" two years ago would be looking for a burger flipping opportunity because that is ALL he should be doing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, they were. You helped to prove it when you mentioned the Lybian cargo ship full of Lybian arms waiting off the coast.





    So you help prove that Stevens knew the dangers of being in Benghazi. Ntl, his main reason for being there was to act as interpreter and help the CIA negotiate with the local militants to give up their arms. He was not there on a state mission, he was there on a CIA mission. Hence, its all classified...top secret....hush hush, and congress is sworn not to tell.

    That's makes sense. But it doesn't negate the fact that Stevens was working for the CIA when the compound was attacked...or that he wasn't there by his own choice.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, they were. You helped to prove it when you mentioned the Lybian cargo ship full of Lybian arms waiting off the coast.





    So you help prove that Stevens knew the dangers of being in Benghazi. Ntl, his main reason for being there was to act as interpreter and help the CIA negotiate with the local militants to give up their arms. He was not there on a state mission, he was there on a CIA mission. Hence, its all classified...top secret....hush hush, and congress is sworn not to tell.

    That's makes sense. But it doesn't negate the fact that Stevens was working for the CIA when the compound was attacked...or that he didn't know the danger before he went to Benghazi and that he still chose to go.

    Not that night they weren't. Which Lt Col Wood testified too.



    Lt. Col Wood was the Commander in Charge of the American security detail in Libya & he testified.....

    “I feel duty bound to come forward in order to inform and provide a portion of ground truth information. I feel a sense of honor for those individuals who have died in the service of their country.

    I realize much of my work in Libya was entangled in sensitive government work… The killing of a US Ambassador is a rare and extraordinary thing and requires our attention as a people.

    As a citizen I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk whatever circumstances may result from my testimony”.....snip~

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    More from Stevens Himself.....


    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape.....

    (CBS News) In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya.....

    Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security.

    On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September."

    On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard potions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.

    On August 8, as the special security teams left Libya, another cable from Stevens says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

    Then on September 11 -- the day the Ambassador lost his life -- he sent this Benghazi weekly report. It expressed Libyans' "growing frustration with police and security forces who were too weak to keep the country secure."

    Colonel Andrew Wood led the U.S. military team that left Libya in August. He testified before Congress last week.

    He told CBS News that Stevens fought losing another security team.....snip~

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape - CBS News

    Which now here is a lil clue for all.....Ansar al Sharia threaten to kill Stevens in June of 2012 after their trial run on the Annex the first time round.

    Also, the attacks Stevens was referring to was the Assassination attempt on the Brit Ambassador and the Italians. Then the Red Cross Offices were hit.....plus there were a bunch of Libyan political assassinations.
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Then it would be the CIA's fault for not providing him adequate security. One of the issues (besides the lies from the regime here in America) is that a US Ambassador didn't have adequate security measures; if you want to suggest he was working on a CIA op they should have provided him adequate security. I believe its been reported the Stevens had, in writing, asked for more security for the Benghazi mission well ahead of this and he was turned down.
    If Stevens was denied adequate security....then why did he go? It was the 9/11 anniversary, protests all over the ME, Benghazi was in a state of anarcy, Lybia's president says he warned of an attack three days in advance, almost all the foreign diplomats and NGOs had evacuated and relocated to Tripoli..... so who told Ambassador that it was safe to go to Benghazi? It had to be the CIA....who else?



    In a time when people actually cared about the lives of others a person in the employ of our government that failed to adequately assess the security needs of such an ambassador would at least be fired. A "twerp" idiot moron that appears on national TV and say "dude" it was "like" two years ago would be looking for a burger flipping opportunity because that is ALL he should be doing.
    Heads did roll. They don't call him "former" CIA director for nothing.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Dude, did a DEM. US Senator ever call GWB a scumbag?
    I don't know. Do you? I'm certain they did, but I have no idea if it's recorded for posterity. Maybe they didn't use those precise words because it's a stretch for someone like Harry Reid to put two syllables together in that fashion. It's certainly not in Pelosi's lexicon, although she did manage "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi..." which I thought was a triumph for her. Dude.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    A lot of people consider an attack against US interests abroad as protests. Prior to 9/11 it was so frequent that people just got used to calling it 'collateral damage'. It really doesn't make any difference whether the attack was pre-planned or not if it was done in protest. So until they catch the guys who did it and they admit their motive....then it's all just speculation.



    One man's idea of violent protest is another man's idea of terror. Neither are mutually exclusive.
    Complete BS. WWII was a protest then. We entered WWII as a protest against the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. No speculation involved. And "until they catch the guys who did it" is a joke. Reporters interviewed them on the streets of Tripoli, and you're maintaining that we can't find them? Heh.

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If Stevens was denied adequate security....then why did he go? It was the 9/11 anniversary, protests all over the ME, Benghazi was in a state of anarcy, Lybia's president says he warned of an attack three days in advance, almost all the foreign diplomats and NGOs had evacuated and relocated to Tripoli..... so who told Ambassador that it was safe to go to Benghazi? It had to be the CIA....who else?

    Heads did roll. They don't call him "former" CIA director for nothing.

    What don't you get Moot.....he was Ordered to go. He can't refuse a direct order.

    Also, we have the dispute between the CIA and State over the emails. Here are the 12 ABC was brought up about.


    Benghazi e-mails show clash between State Department, CIA.....
    Published: May 10, 2013


    New details from administration e-mails about last year’s attacks on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya, demonstrate that an intense bureaucratic clash took place between the State Department and the CIA over which agency would get to tell the story of how the tragedy unfolded.

    That clash played out in the development of administration talking points that have been at the center of the controversy over the handling of the incident, according to the e-mails that came to light Friday.

    Friday’s revelations — ABC News published 12 versions of the talking points — produced the latest round of Benghazi post-mortems in the eight months since the attacks. Senior administration officials said in a briefing for reporters that none of Obama’s political advisers were involved in discussions around the original talking points, only national security staff officials.

    According to various drafts of the talking points, shaped before the final editing by the White House and other agencies, State Department officials raised concerns that the CIA-drafted version could be used by members of Congress to criticize diplomatic security preparedness in Benghazi.

    One version of the talking points, drafted by the CIA, noted that unknown gunmen had carried out at least five recent attacks in and around Benghazi against “foreign interests.” The final version, however, did not include those warnings after Victoria Nuland, the State Department’s chief spokeswoman at the time, protested in e-mails to White House national security staff and other agencies involved in editing the talking points.

    CIA officials said in the weeks after the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, a group affiliated with al-Qaeda, was not mentioned in the final talking points because the information was classified — even though the early versions made public this week showed that the agency initially intended to name the group.

    Reports about the e-mails surfaced two days after three State Department officials appeared before Congress on Wednesday and criticized administration actions before, during and after the September assaults.

    But White House officials were directly involved in developing the talking points through discussions with the CIA, the State Department, the FBI, the Justice Department, and elements of the Pentagon.....snip~

    Benghazi e-mails show clash between State Department, CIA - The Washington Post
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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Remember now that was ABC that brought out the earlier discrepancies.

    In a statement, Jen Psaki, the State Department’s chief spokesperson, said Friday that the department first reviewed the talking points on the evening of Sept. 14, two days before Rice delivered them on a series of talk shows. She said Nuland raised two concerns. “First that the points went further in assigning responsibility than preliminary assessments suggested and there was concern about preserving the integrity of the investigation,” Psaki said. “Second, that the points were inconsistent with the public language the administration had used to date — meaning members of Congress would be providing more guidance to the public than the administration.”

    In November, both Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. and former CIA director David H. Petraeus briefed the intelligence committees about the talking points. After that testimony, DNI spokesman Shawn Turner told reporters that the intelligence community was solely responsible for “substantive” changes in the talking points.

    A bipartisan report on Benghazi released by the Senate homeland security committee in December said that a senior CIA analyst had advocated including the al-Qaeda reference.....snip~

    Benghazi e-mails show clash between State Department, CIA - The Washington Post

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    Re: Ex-White House Official On Benghazi: 'Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You mentioned the senate, you remember back in 2012 when I said the election would be decided in the east. That if Romney lost any one of three states, Virginia, Florida and Ohio, that one should just go to bed because the election is over. All three states were must win states for Romney.
    Remember when Romney first jumped on Benghazi, making it an election issue?
    What did DEMs do on the original 9/11/2001?
    They were expected to act like Patriotic lemmings for the party of the Patriotic, the GOP, and they did.

    There will never be peace in foreign policy, as there will never be peace with any GOP faux issue.
    Even if the GOP impeaches another DEM President, it will not satisfy their hatred of the DEMs over Watergate.

    Your icon Goldwater is turning over in his grave on Benghazi.
    Imagine how Goldwater would have responded if DEMs tried to pull this **** on Beirut in the 80's, when he was still in the Senate .
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