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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And every single actual military person who was
    in a position to actually make decisions that night says there wasn't anything that could have been done. But **** what they think, right? They're just the experts.

    A lot of people wish they could have done something. I knew Sean Smith, I damn sure wish there was something that could have been done. But there wasn't. The fantasy that right wing media has given you about "stand down" orders, an armed predator drone on station, etc, is just that. Fantasy. Fantasy born out of the frustration of feeling helpless.

    There was no "painted target."
    Is there really a distinction in the words "stand down" and the words " stay put " ?

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    GOP Chair Buck McKeon said it wouldn't have made any difference, chastizing the idiot General .
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    GOP Chair Buck McKeon said it wouldn't have made any difference, chastizing the idiot General .
    The General never claimed it would have made a difference. He said it was dishonorable not to have tried. And McKeon wasn't there yesterday.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The General never claimed it would have made a difference. He said it was dishonorable not to have tried. And McKeon wasn't there yesterday.
    Monday morning quarterbacking is for cowards. Especially driven by partisan political bull****.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Monday morning quarterbacking is for cowards. Especially driven by partisan political bull****.
    Obama and the Democrats started with the Partisan BS when they started crafting a false narrative about a video before the attack was even over.

    While Americans were dying, they're literally sitting around thinking of ways to lie to the American people.

    Figuring out ways to save THEIR asses, and not the people under attack.

    Do you think that thats appropriate behaviour from our Commander and Chief ?

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Monday morning quarterbacking is for cowards. Especially driven by partisan political bull****.
    And this is based on your vast experience in counterterrorist operations? The General was obviously upset at the time and, as a good military man should, waited until he is no longer on active service to speak publicly. The failure to even try to respond was questioned at the time.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Gates was right though. You don't send in assets effectively blind to rescue other assets. That gets everyone killed. I'd rather trust the wisdom of former secretary Gates then the arm chair fools here.
    Only because you agree with him.

    However, this time, General Gates is wrong.

    In the words of General Zinni:

    "...in order to do our mission, we have to take risks. The only only one hundred percent safe way to avoid them is to no go there. But if we're going to be in a region, and we're going to do our job, there is risk involved. We're going to expose the troops.


    The mood back in the United States has been deeply frustrating, and that is: We have to make our force presence in the world one-hundred percent safe for our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. And if one soldier, sailor, air-man, or Marine is injured, or lost to terrorist activity, then we have to find somebody on our side to blame for it.

    I can't think of a more dysfunctional way to run military operations"

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Monday morning quarterbacking is for cowards. Especially driven by partisan political bull****.
    Like what you're doing, now. Yes?

    If The President was anyone but a black, Liberal Democrat, you would be calling for his head. But, since it's Obama, it's suddenly a mortal sin to question his performance.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Gates was right though. You don't send in assets effectively blind to rescue other assets. That gets everyone killed. I'd rather trust the wisdom of former secretary Gates then the arm chair fools here.
    Although he was an admirable SecDef, Gates had no personal military command experience. In fact, in war assets are sent in "effectively blind to rescue other assets" all the time. It's called keeping faith amid the fog of war.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Although he was an admirable SecDef, Gates had no personal military command experience. In fact, in war assets are sent in "effectively blind to rescue other assets" all the time. It's called keeping faith amid the fog of war.
    I think this was sadly totally political....During a political campaign where Romney wiped the floor with Obama in the first debate, was headed for debate #2, and reports that Obama's heart just wasn't in it were out there...Had they told the truth about what happened that night, and that the callous disregard for American's lives over hiding the truth about what they were doing in Benghazi would directly point to a foreign policy failure, directly on the heels of Romney effectively showing the domestic failure in debate #1.

    They are now getting caught in their lies, but at this point, and in the words of Hillary...."What at this point does it matter?" Obama wins, he's in, and we have a speaker that all but avoided the select committee until he is now forced to do it....That all but ensures that instead of having real impact, it will be mocked, scoffed, and dismissed by the demo's that we need to hold this administration accountable....

    All I can see coming out of this administration is that demo's have been fully exposed as the liars, duplicitous, callous criminals they are....If America keeps voting for them they then deserve what they get.
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