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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    These e-mails simply confirm what we already know. That the Administration took the CIA's story word for word without verifying it to be true. I fault them for that. I can't believe anyone trusts the CIA anymore. Everything else is just a right wing wet dream.
    Yes, it confirms this White and the Congress are filled with scum bag Democrats, who put their political careers above the lives of 4 Americans.

    And YOUR post confirms that Obama supporters are very easy to lie to. THAT confirms what we already know.

    Michael Morrell also said under oath that the fake video narrative didn't come from the CIA.

    So it cams from the WH. I want to send Jay Carney a Thank You letter for making me laugh.

    What a pathetic and desperate attempt to Bull S*** the American people.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    There was a response. They did try.
    Gates was right though. You don't send in assets effectively blind to rescue other assets. That gets everyone killed. I'd rather trust the wisdom of former secretary Gates then the arm chair fools here.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    With a different American president they already would have been. Somehow with Obama, the buck never seems to reach the top. Never even seems to start on its way to the top.
    Unlike our last President and his "Medals of Failure", Right?


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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And you don't think having that CIA annex a few blocks away had anything to do with his misplaced bravado? Didn't the CIA send in help?
    They were completely separate activities. CIA never has responsibility for Embassy or Consulate security. They reacted to assist on an ad hoc basis.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    These e-mails simply confirm what we already know. That the Administration took the CIA's story word for word without verifying it to be true. I fault them for that. I can't believe anyone trusts the CIA anymore. Everything else is just a right wing wet dream.
    Is it a wet dream that we would do all within our power to kill or capture the assailants? Have we done that yet? As you said, it's old news. Nearly two years have passed since the event, and not one of the murderers has been brought to justice. None, in spite of the fact at least one was conducting interviews in Tripoli at a street side cafe. That's how important this event is to this administration. As time passes, this administration continues to dishonor the sacrifice these Americans made, and it seems your chief concern is to hold on course with them and the obvious lies they offer to hide their dishonor in a pursuit of political power.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    With a different American president they already would have been. Somehow with Obama, the buck never seems to reach the top. Never even seems to start on its way to the top.
    That's a pretty dim view of the special forces command, among others. Incompetent and cowardly at a minimum. Not one has spoken out or resigned in protest for the supposedly near treasonous lack of response that night. If it was their superiors who failed, apparently the underlings would rather keep their jobs and perks instead of speak out. Pretty shameful if you asked me on the part of the military chain of command.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    This is old news. In fact the entire thing is OLD. The CIA got blindsided by the attack and instead of admitting they screwed up they decided to blame the video, which had already caused violent uprisings in Cairo and Yemen. They are the ones that told Stevens that he would not need extra protection because they were taking care of it. They did try too, but they failed to stop the attack. We still don't know exactly what the CIA was doing there at that "annex" but what ever it was kept them busy enough to miss the chatter about an attack on the Ambassador. He should have had those special forces men that he turned down more than once. You have to ask yourself why did he do that? We will never know....and how convenient for the CIA too.
    I'm not sure how much the CIA is to blame, but a few things are obvious. These were CIA outposts, with CIA employees, many under State dept cover, doing CIA spook activities, under the command of DCI Petraeus. It was secret enough that Petraeus failed to show at the memorial for two of his own dead employees. But ALL the venom from our right wing friends has been directed at Hillary, Obama, and Rice. You can read entire threads about Benghazi!!! and never hear Petraeus mentioned by right wingers. It's fairly obvious there is a huge amount of raw political partisanship behind that bit of disconnect.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Damn right we should have tried; even if we KNEW there wasn't enough time to react.
    If they got there a few hours late they still could have killed most of the perpetrators who were ransacking the consulate at the time.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    We're anxiously awaiting the eventual release of more E-mails.

    Considering the latest release and Jay Carney's ridiculous bald face lie that it wasn't related to Benghazzi, I think its smart to assume anything thats been said in defense of the White Houses unprecedented Politicizing of Four dead Americans is dubious at best.

    When it came down to it, the order for Military action could have only come from Obama and no one seems to know where he was on the night of 9/11.
    So, you don't trust Gates or the military, including special forces, to tell the truth about the timeline that night, the forces available in Tripoli, why a team was left there, and why they weren't sent to Benghazi? What's the point of having anyone testify if you just disregard what doesn't fit the narrative you prefer, and embrace only what does?

    And if you think that there should have been some "military action" that Obama should have authorized but didn't, what would that have been? How long would it have taken to assemble, arm, brief, transport a team to Benghazi, make their way to the Annex, etc., where were these troops housed, could they have made it in time, etc. It's easy to say "military action!!" but there have been senior military testify that what you're suggesting just wasn't realistic - Gates called this view "cartoonish."

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Obama let them be murdered. Period. But this nation is so ass backwards now, he could win a third term if he was allowed to run.

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